Posts by jwfacts

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Formal Introduction - Hi!!!

by Gustv Cintrn in

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friends

been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.

now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.

a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.

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It's very surprising to observe many 'younger' JWs beginning to treat the Org as just 'a religion' and not follow it blindly as previous generations, or even take it into account at every single step in life. This way is most comfortable for many of us inside, and as I've gauged it lately, it's the way will continue as the younger generation continues to take over.

Changes constantly; can't hardly wait 'til they knock off the Friday from the big annual convention, also that they lower the pioneering hours even more. Lately I'm seeing a more relaxed outlook on college education as the admin. realizes is now a necesity to be better educated than just High School. Love it!

I have speculated that with 1914 being too far away to be relevant to people born after 2000, the religion will need to change tack and become just a religion, not a doomsday cult. It will then cut back on meetings and activity further, and push more for donations.

The other thing that needs to change is emphasis on living forever on earth. People would rather have an immortal soul than think they may be buried and gone for many years, until God resurrects a photocopy of who they once were. It was fine when all JWs thought they would never die, but now that the older ones realise they probably will, being immortal in heaven is a more appealing concept. That shift is already happening, with the number of anointed rising. Since the current Governing Body would not have been considered worthy 30 years ago due to their age, they themselves show their attitude rebellious in this area and so likely to be accepting of such a change.

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Letter of Reinstatement

by kayanow in

i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.

i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.

i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.

jwfacts

There is a sample letter at http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/207544/1/My-cousin-got-reinstated-guess-who-wrote-the-letter-take-that-Jehovah#.VAMu57ySzZc

Once you are reinstated, will you continue to attend meetings or fade out? I understand that it is hard to lose family, but if you know it is not the truth, then you will regret later in life devoting time to the religion and not building a life based on reality.

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Please help....in a dilemma..

by crazyhorse in

please help with this: when i was in college, there was a lot of talk about university and how all who pursue that are wasting their time and all that.

even before going to uni, there was a lot of pressurr on me concerning my decision.

during that time, two elders sat with me for appointment as ms and asked me if i have freedom of speech in the org since i'm going to uni and i said no.

jwfacts

It is quite simple, don't accept the appointment. Make sure you don't report more than 4 hours a month and they won't even offer.

I was an MS and then moved congregations. I started reporting 1 hour a month, so that they could not reappoint me, but would not get upset that I was inactive and chase me for reports. I was sometimes asked why I was not reaching out but over time people stopped asking.

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Formal Introduction - Hi!!!

by Gustv Cintrn in

jw
friends

been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.

now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.

a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.

jwfacts

Welcome.

have found a nice click within of like-minded JWs

Are you saying they don't accept it as really the truth, but you all hang out together as part of the same social identity?

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Letter of Reinstatement

by kayanow in

i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.

i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.

i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.

jwfacts

Welcome kayanow. Do you still believe it is the truth, or are you trying to be reinstated for family reasons?

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Predicting online bible studies, email answers, donations, etc coming soon!

by EndofMysteries in

i'm sure real soon they'll have video chat online bible studies, email questions and answers, etc.

right now their website still has 'write a letter' option going on.

how many will get in on the online bible studies and emails and ask some probing questions, ttatt stuff?

jwfacts

How many will get in on the online bible studies and emails and ask some probing questions, TTATT stuff?

What a great idea. It could really backfire on the Org.

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JW.org to be regarded as fulfillment of the signs of the last days.

by jwfacts in

i struggled as a jw to accept that the good news of the kingdom was ever going to be preached in all the inhabited world by jws, as there were many parts of the world with few to no jws.

there are not enough to cover the 3 billion plus people in asia to allow everyone to get a chance to hear the message.

it also was offensive to me that jehovah would kill those billions that had never had a chance to accept the watchtower message.

jwfacts

I struggled as a JW to accept that the good news of the kingdom was ever going to be preached in all the inhabited world by JWs, as there were many parts of the world with few to no JWs. There are not enough to cover the 3 billion plus people in Asia to allow everyone to get a chance to hear the message. It also was offensive to me that Jehovah would kill those billions that had never had a chance to accept the Watchtower message. In the past, I was told that Angels would draw the sheeplike to his people, but even that was hardly possible in countries like India.

I have no doubt that the GB will start using their website as a way to overcome these objections. They can now say that the internet is accessible to virtually every person in the entire inhabited world. When sheeplike ones in areas that have no access to JWs search for truth they will find jw.org. Angels will direct a person's google search to go directly to the page that will teach them about Jehovah and save their life.

It is such an easy way for JWs to say they have now fulfilled prophecy. Obviously that reasoning is wrong, as most people will never look at jw.org, and a cursory glance will have absolutely zero affect on what someone believes, but I can see it being a powerful tool in satifying JWs that question their global relevance to Mat 24:14.

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Question: Is JW religion the most attacked one?

by Da.Furious in

i was having a chat with an elder and couple of friends regarding apostates and how to protect ourselves and funnily how to identify them!.

during the discussion the elder mentioned: jehovah's witnesses is most attacked religion in the world.

there are no other religions that are under the spotlight.

jwfacts

JWs experience very little in the way of persecution. A few negative websites hardly constitute persecution. I get emails from JWs asking why I am persecuting them, simply for having a site. I don't promote it to JWs, and on it there is no call to action against JWs, so it is clutching at straws to claim it as persecution, but they have to because there is very little else that happens to JWs these days could be classified as persecution.

Perscution of other religions is far worse in some areas. There are scores of religions whose members are being killed each year. Just look at the wars in recent past in Ireland where Catholics and Protestants have been killing each other, or the what is happening in the Middle East, between Muslims, or Muslims and Christians. Or Jews and Muslims.

Falun Gong is a peaceful religion from China that has been banned and thousands have died for their beliefs over the last 30 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong

Christians are persecuted around the world. See https://www.opendoorsusa.org/persecution/ that lists the countries where Christians by the millions are suffering for what they believe.

JWs are an insular group totally removed from the reality of what is going on around them, and have developed their own persecution complex.

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About Living Forever.... It wouldn't work.

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i often download open yale courses audio for my mp3 player.

i work repatative in the morning so get 3-4 hours of courses,.

one done today on the philosephy of death made a point.. if you lived 300 years you might might still remember childhood.. 500 year childhood might be gone and by then you are not the same person you were at 50. in fat you might not even rmembe you were that person!.

jwfacts

The soul of man is eternal, like its Creator. Not one person on this thread will EVER be able to stop being conscious, no matter how much it is desired.

Does that mean it always existed, and we have an eternal but forgotten past?

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10% Way Through 1000 year reign

by Coded Logic in

not sure if anyones posted on this topic, but it just hit me that if jesus thousand year reign started in 1914 then we are already 10% way though and no "sign of the end" yet.

can the wtbts really hold out much longer?

are we going to have to wait for 3014 for them to admitt they got it wrong?.

jwfacts

I have never had a straight answer on how Jesus' reign started in 1914, but the thousand years doesn't start till after Armageddon. So Jesus actually rules for more than 1000 years.