today i attended the special assembly day (sad lol).
i overheard a conversation between an elder and another elder.
we'll call this guy a super elder because he's on all sorts of committees in the area.
the 100th anniversary of god's kingdom
You think they would be embarrassed that the 100th anniversary of God's kingdom has passed and it has accomplished nothing, and no one knows anything about it.
You make a good point, sports events get these sorts of attendances every week. The international conventions are special to no one but themselves.
as i was saying before the watchtower literature trolley has arrived in my little town.... my wife and i were in town this afternoon and i saw one of my former elder colleagues standing beside the trolley talking to a young man and reading to him from one of their books.
ray was one my least favourite people - he was everything that is bad about jw elders.
i went up to them and interrupted and told the man that this is a cult recruitment campaign.
ABibleStudent. I have a QR code on the bottom right of the home page.
I have a few few people at the moment that are translating articles Into Spanish. It is a long project, as getting Watchtower quotes in other languages from older years is time consuming. There are also a handful of articles now in other languages. It is hard finding people to translate and could pay for translation work, but it really needs to be done by a JW to get the terminology correct and I guess would cost a lot.
as i was saying before the watchtower literature trolley has arrived in my little town.... my wife and i were in town this afternoon and i saw one of my former elder colleagues standing beside the trolley talking to a young man and reading to him from one of their books.
ray was one my least favourite people - he was everything that is bad about jw elders.
i went up to them and interrupted and told the man that this is a cult recruitment campaign.
Cofty, I am travelling internationally without a laptop for a couple of weeks, so can't contribute much. You can post it, or I will when I return. It would also be good to have a running thread on our experiences with the trolley preachers.
as i was saying before the watchtower literature trolley has arrived in my little town.... my wife and i were in town this afternoon and i saw one of my former elder colleagues standing beside the trolley talking to a young man and reading to him from one of their books.
ray was one my least favourite people - he was everything that is bad about jw elders.
i went up to them and interrupted and told the man that this is a cult recruitment campaign.
I have been pondering on the great opportunity these stands present to ex-JWs. In my new place where I live I have only been called on once in 2 years. But I have seen a number of stands. If we start to go and speak to the people, they are our captive audience. Very quickly we could have JWs and the Watchtower afraid of using them. It would be good to have a discussion on topics to use, and things that have worked.
i seem to think it was a november wt issue but can't remember precisely, but it was probably printed within the last three years.
after being told for years and years that everyone not a jw would be destroyed, this was amazing to see in print!
yet when i pointed it out to others, they just shrugged it off and left me wondering what i was missing.... does this ring a bell with anyone?.
I don't remember any statement to that affect. The closest I recall is what Blondie quoted, which does not say worldly pepole will be saved, but could be taken as such if someone wants to read more into the statement than is intended.
i seem to think it was a november wt issue but can't remember precisely, but it was probably printed within the last three years.
after being told for years and years that everyone not a jw would be destroyed, this was amazing to see in print!
yet when i pointed it out to others, they just shrugged it off and left me wondering what i was missing.... does this ring a bell with anyone?.
I don't remember any statement to that affect. The closest I recall is what Blondie quoted, which does not say worldly pepole will be saved, but could be taken as such if someone wants to read more into the statement than is intended.
i have to go to bed, but i will post some highlights asap... so watchtarded.... .
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Hey Julia, I think he was referring to the point mentioned at the start that he sounded like a Born Again Preacher.
4) The "banana" talk!! LOL!!! "True Christians" need guidance. Where do you get it?? The FDS!! Some other "Christians" make claims...
5) The Bible is powerful! Holy Spirit will guide you!! [ So holy spirit guides individual Christians to truth, or just the FDS??]
This was something that always disturbed me as a teenager. Did holy spirit guide me or not? Did God answer my prayers or not? It seemed that it was only on occassionally convenient times that I could depend on holy spirit, but most of the time I could not. Still, as a JW I was better off than worldly people, who only had their prayers answered if they prayed to learn the truth, and had a JW knock on their door within a few hours. All those that prayed for truth and had a Mormon knock on their doors must not have had a pure heart.
it was really quite amusing 2day at the meeting when we got to the "this generation will not pass away" subheading in the wt.
the conductor spent very little time on the section and the comments that were given didnt at all make sense really.
you can tell its not understood by the majority of the friendsand will go over there heads, i was trying not to laugh lol.
Mat 24 is far and away the most quoted Bible passage by the Watchtower. It is great that one of their core doctrines from that passage makes no sense. Hopefully a few will continue to be awaken by the nonsense.
I agree that the concept that only the second group belongs to the overlapping generation has been done to create urgency. Of course as they die out, that part of the doctrine will be dropped, if the religion has not died out or morphed into something totally different by then.
Great image Oubliette, hope you don't mind if I use it.
so... i'm writing because i have mixed feelings.
keeping my kids safe is my goal... until they are old enough to understand and reason on their own.
my mother gave me the tapes (that i gave her back in december) of combating mind control by steven hassan, saying that she didn't have a tape player... reminded me of three years ago when i gave her crisis of conscience by ray franz and she said it's to big book to read and she's not a reader.
Yes.
A friend recently let her daughter stay a weekend with the grandparents. Now her daughter wants to start going to meetings. I would not recommend allowing a child to be left with JWs without you being there to supervise.
early this morning i get a phone call from my jw brother i have not heard from in 5 yrs .the first thought in my head was someone has died .
so i answer cautiously ......hi is everything okay ?
he just starts talking as if we had always been in contact.
Interesting that over the years he could justify not having a relationship with you, because the Bible tells him not to, yet kept on over-drinking.
