Posts by jwfacts

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Orwellian Attitude to Old beliefs - Letter re old Lit

by BluesBrother in

the b o e letter about returning old field min.

supplies and , in particular , the future of their revisionist publishing put me in mind of my literary hero george orwell.

they said this : (dated sept 10.

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that revised editions of " What Does the Bible Really Teach?"

If the doctrine have been revised it should be renamed "What does the Bible Really Really Teach?"

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Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

by Mr Negative in

my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

is this true?

Those sort of comments show total ignorance of the matter. The story probably arose because some doctors answered some poll saying there are a lot of risks with blood, and they will avoid it where possible. However, most if not all would have blood if there was no other viable alternative. That too is that stance I take. I believe the Watchtower stance to be unchristian, and fully support blood transfusions, however, I too would not have a transfusion if at all possible and whenever there is an equally effective and available alternative.

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Does money buy happiness and a longer life? You decide...

by Brock Talon in

i poured over time magazine's sep 8-15 2014 edition article "who we are" and put together this spreadsheet on the results from their poll.

i found the statistics quite fascinating.. most people would say that "money doesn't buy happiness", but this poll seems to me to indicate the exact opposite of that.

it also correlates education levels with higher earning that result in that happiness.

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The results are very interesting, particularly how straight forward the increase of income and education is to happiness and longevity.

Most people would say that "Money doesn't buy happiness", but this poll seems to me to indicate the exact opposite of that.

Virtually all studies I have read show that money brings happiness, particularly as people climb from below to above poverty levels.

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SPANISH KINGDOM HALLS BEING SOLD-OFF?

by The Searcher in

according to the letter (link below) out of 705 kingdom halls in spain, 295 are being disposed of.. if someone can translate german/spanish, it would throw some light on the specifics.. http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/brief-zum-koenigreichssaalbauprogramm-in-spanien/#more-948.

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295 will be "abandoned", they will build 214 New KH's

It is a money making scheme. Build new halls with the donations of the followers, along with their free labour, to build equity for the Watchtower.

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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

by lambsbottom in

wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

true?

references?.

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ptt7000 - All nations know about Christ if not every person.

Absolutely not. Billions have never heard of Christ. Asia has barely been touched in many countries. And the teachings of Islam about Christ present him in a very different light to the Bible.

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FuGK This Religion- Stop Ruining My Life!!!

by wallievase in

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i am sorry for the title but today just took the cake.

after not going to the meetings since august and trying to sort through this with my family, my wife today told me she wants to separate because of our differences over being a witness or not.. this is ridiculous.

so i said- how can you separate from me when the religion you whole heartedly believe says you can only separate for 3 reasons- abuse, willful non-support, or stopping her from her meeting attendance, etc.

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You make an interesting point. There are a lot of talks where a wife has an unbelieving husband, and how she must stay and win him over without a word. But it is quite different when the husband was a JW and leaves. He is now a dangerous apostate that could affect her spirituality, and very often the spouse will feel leaving is the correct option, as encouraged by elders. I hope you are able to work it out with your wife.

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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

by lambsbottom in

wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

true?

references?.

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There is the official answer, and then the vaguaries the Watchtower leaves open, so that it can still attract new people and not offend JWs that are not totally heartless.

Salvation only for Jehovah's Witnesses shows numerous quotes that only active, baptised JWs will be saved (and their minor children). This is reinforced by concepts such as you needed to be on the ark to be saved in the flood. Not everyone on earth was contacted by Noah, but they all drowned nonetheless.

But the Watchtower opens it up by saying things like, "It is up to God to judge." It makes it seem God may allow some others to be saved, and some JWs take it that way to appease their own consciences, but that does not mean what it seems, as the doctrine is God will not save someone that is not a baptised active JW. So it is a dishonest misdirection.

The dishonesty can be seen in the following quote. It actually says that it is not only Jws that will be saved, but goes on to show that it is only Jws that will be saved.

" Do You Feel That You Are the Only People Who Will Be Saved?

No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation. The Bible explains that in God’s promised new world, “there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) Additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve God, and they too will gain salvation. In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands."

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Things WT has condemned other religions for doing...only to eventually do themselves!

by androb31 in

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They are finding that main-stream religion became that way for a reason, and realise that they have to copy them to survive.

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How to tell how effective JW.TV will be

by bohm in

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here is a simple and obvious way to tell how effective jw.tv is going to be:.

in the past, how effective has religious tv been for you?

has watching religious tv made by moonies, evangelists, mormons or scientologists made you seriously reflect on spirituality?

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What I found interesting was the song that was played towards the end. Not sure what you would call it - Christian folk rock maybe. I don't think they expect outsiders to view it, but rather they are trying to make the youth find some sort of excitement in the religion.

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Has anyone else heard this about the GB??

by FeelingFree in

ok so me and my husband were talking to his mum again about why we are no longer going to meetings and got into another pointless discussion where she feels he needs to talk to an elder about his issue's blah, blah, blah... round and round it went...... the thing i wanted to ask was if anybody had heard that there wont be any gb after these one's die??

this is something she mentioned today and we have never heard of this ever.

so it means no more will be appointed and they will just die off!

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It sounds like a rumour. JWs want to believe that, as it indicates the end must be very near.