I think the last paragraph sums it up.
chappy
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spritual???
by wonderwoman77 inhey a friend of mine posted this on another board...see what you think.... good day, all.. i am trying to relax a bit, while reading articles and pages of interest on the web.
i cam across an article i'd like to share, or draw your attention to.. one interesting part of this is that it concerns the definition of spirituality.
according to this definition, the wts and jws are about as anti-spiritual as appears possible.. "a spiritual being is comfortable with the idea of having teachers, observers, and divine guidance available at any time.
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Raymond Franz's Betrayal
by IslandWoman inthanks for calling this to my attention.
my reason for not wanting book material to be run on certain web sites is purely because of finding their approach out of harmony with my own principles and standards, so many are engaged in watch tower trashing and extremely negative.
some sites present material that promotes agnosticism and distrust of the scriptures, even atheism (one such site being in scandanavia).
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chappy
How credible do you think Ray's expose' would have been by bashing the WTS? Yes, he exposed the hypocracy and falsehood in the Org., but it was done with respect and dignity. Now you think he should drop his Christian ideals and bash away? Like it or not, Ray is a Christian, and true Christians try to follow the example of Christ, who said to love your enemies. It's damn near impossible for me personally to hold my tonque about the Borg, but that's my weakness. I certainly don't expect Ray to change his ideals to suit my fancy. An athiest or non-christian doesn't follow the same ideals, therefore they react differently. This isn't meant to "bash" non-christians or athiests, it's just that their goals are different. For example Kent has done a tremendous job of providing detailed information about the WTS. It's just that he has different ideals than Ray.
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XJW National Lottery Syndicate . . let's have FUN!
by nicolaou inhere are my two tickets for tonight's draw, and here's my promise - if i scoop the jackpot, i'll share it with everyone who replies to this post before 7.30pm gmt!!.
for clarity, the numbers are;.
6 - 7 - 12 - 14 - 19 - 37. okay, so the odds are seven million to one but hey, it's about time we had a bit of a laugh.......and you never know!.
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chappy
Hey pal, I won't even ask you to mail me my check, I'll come get it!
chappy
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Insanity at the helm?
by chappy inwhat the hell is this guy thinking!?.
(reuters) - citing a classified pentagon report, the los angeles times reported on saturday that the bush administration has told the defense department to prepare, on a contingency basis, plans to use nuclear weapons against at least seven countries.
the military was also directed to build smaller nuclear weapons for use in certain battlefield situations, the newspaper reported.
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What the hell is this guy thinking!?
(Reuters) - Citing a classified Pentagon report, the Los Angeles Times reported on Saturday that the Bush administration has told the Defense Department to prepare, on a contingency basis, plans to use nuclear weapons against at least seven countries. The military was also directed to build smaller nuclear weapons for use in certain battlefield situations, the newspaper reported. The countries named in the secret report -- provided to Congress Jan. 8 -- were China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria, the Times reported.
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Your name for God
by ashitaka inrename god for what he means to you.
would he be just, joe, so pal?.
would you give him a derragatory name?.
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Chappy, Where are U
by badboy inon one of my previous posts, i challenged chappy to provide evidence that solomon palaces existed, he doesn't seem to have replied, so where are u,chappy?.
on a separate point i saw a film which mentioned that proof that jews were in the holy land was lacking,it also mentioned that when they tested for y-chromose(sic)and hla genes, both israeli jews and palestinians(sic)were the same genectically!.
strange,very strange
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chappy
BB,
In your original post you stated that there was no evidence of ANY biblical history. ALL of it can't be proved. SOME of it can.
Solomons temple is one that no evidence has been discovered as of yet. Part of the wall of the 2'nd temple (bibical history) stands in Jerusalem as we speak however. Pretty strong evidence of "Biblical history", no?
I think the Jews in the holy land question you mentioned is referring to a lack of evidence of their 40 year wandering in the desert. If so you are correct. No evidence of such a large group of people living in the Sinai has been found, discrediting the Exodus story.chappy
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Death of Free Speech
by chappy ina little off topic for the board, but i thought it was applicable to the times.. .
the death of free speech.
by doug patton.
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chappy
A little off topic for the board, but I thought it was applicable to the times.
The Death of Free Speech
By Doug Patton
2-24-2What did you learn in school today, Billy?
Oh, just the usual stuff, Grandpa. The teacher told us about the greatest people in American history. You know, people like Malcolm X and Hillary Clinton and John McCain.
Do they ever talk about the Constitution in school anymore?
No, Grandpa, you're the only one who ever talks to me about that. I asked my teacher about it and she got all mad. Why did she get mad, Grandpa?
Well, Billy, it's against the law now for me to talk about this, but I'm an old man and I don't care. You need to hear it. The Constitution was a very old, very precious document that had a great deal of meaning in our lives for the first two hundred years of our nation's history. We believed in the words written by George Washington and Benjamin Franklin and the others we once called the Founding Fathers.
Yeah, my teacher called them the Founding Outlaws. She said they all owned slaves and they beat them and I shouldn't talk about them.
Well, in a way I guess they were outlaws. They wrote the Declaration of Independence and started a new form of government. And while it's true that it was wrong of them to keep slaves, they gave us all a better nation than had ever existed before. They wrote the Constitution, which guaranteed certain rights by agreeing that those rights were given by God.
Oh, we're not allowed to say 'God' in school. You could get in so much trouble. My teacher says only fanatics talk about God. Are you a fanatic, Grandpa?
Yes, I guess in today's world I am, Billy. You see I believe as those Founding Outlaws did that each of us is endowed by our creator - God -with certain rights, and that among those rights is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The writing of those words was the most important moment in our history.
That's not what my teacher said.
I'm sure she didn't. What did she say?
She told us the greatest thing to happen to the country ever was something called Finance Campaign Reform...or something like that. She said it happened about thirty years ago, in 2002, and that it cleaned up government. She said before that government was open to the highest bidder. I didn't understand it very well.
Well, Billy, she was right about one thing. That bill called Campaign Finance Reform was important all right, but not the way she meant it. You see, that was the year the people lost the right to criticize our government. Before that, a person or a group could buy time on TV or radio and talk about the record of a member of Congress. Or they could distribute voter guides letting people know where their elected officials stood on the issues.
Wow! You used to be able to do that?
Oh absolutely. But then something terrible happened. That right was taken away and the only people allowed to talk about government officials were those in the news media. The big newspapers and the big TV networks suddenly were in a position to decide who was a good representative and who wasn't. Soon they were the only ones allowed to publish their opinions.
Why didn't people fight against it, Grandpa?
Oh, believe me, Billy, some of us tried. We could still communicate with our elected representatives in those days, and we all knew that bill would pass the Senate if it got that far, but we never thought it would. We assumed that the House of Representatives, which was supposedly controlled by Republicans, would reject it outright. But they betrayed us, pure and simple, Billy. Some of them fought for the Constitution, but too many Republicans joined the Democrats and took away our right to criticize our government. And then when the president signed it...Someone's at the door, Billy. See who it is, will you?
Mr. Patton, you're under arrest for sedition and corrupting the mind of a minor child. Good job, Billy...you can take off the microphone now.
Sorry, Grandpa, but you really shouldn't say such nasty things about the government.
http://gopusa.com"We must remember that a right lost to one is lost to all."
- William Reece Smith, Jr.later,
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JW Daily readings 2000
by badboy ini was reading the above or some such title when they quote from a book that their is archaeological evidence of solomon eloquent reign.. what evidence?.
i understand from a tv programme that although israeli archaeologists have excavated throughout the holy land that they can't find direct evidence proof of bibical events.. (they does seem to be evidence of nomads/semi-nomads living in the jericho area),this may be related to joshua.
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chappy
There's tons archaeological of evidence of "biblical events". Not all for sure; but a lot.
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Four Dubs just walked pass my house
by rekless inwhat gives these duds aren't doing their house to house work properly.
this is twice with in two months that the dubs have pass me by , why?.
i just moved to las vegas this past year no body knows my address or that i was daed or dfed.. it is like there is a sign that says apostate lives here.. what you think?
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chappy
Did you remember to spread the blood over your door post?
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WTC Disaster Prediction?
by Stephanus intake a look at this picture:.
this is the picture mentioned in this article: http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1059946a11,ff.html.
does anyone agree with the article that this is an accurate depiction of the events of september 11, or like me, do you think that the image and the events are totally unrelated?
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