Hiding my head in shame. Damn, I can't believe I didn't verify that in the Koran. Any and all abuse expected and deserved.
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Quote from The Koran
by chappy inthe following is an interesting quote from the koran.
remember the symble for america.
note the chapter-verse.. koran (9:11) - for it is written that a son of arabia would awaken a.
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Quote from The Koran
by chappy inthe following is an interesting quote from the koran.
remember the symble for america.
note the chapter-verse.. koran (9:11) - for it is written that a son of arabia would awaken a.
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The following is an interesting quote from the Koran. Remember the symble for America. Note the chapter-verse.
Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a
> > fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the
> > lands
> > of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still
> > more
> > rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and
> > there
> > was peace.Ironic or what?
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copy of July 8th Awake
by jwgirlfriend indoes anyone happen to have a copy of the july 8, 2004 awake?
i heard there is information in their regarding changed views on celebrations.
i would really like to read that article.
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The whole 14th chapter of Romans seems quite clear as to concience matters. Vs 1: "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over trivial things". Vs 2: "For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables". Vs 5: "One person esteems one day above another, another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind." Vs 12: "So then each of us shall give account of himself to God". Reading the entire chapter, it seems plain to me that it is saying don't nit-pic over trivial things like what foods should or shouldn't be eaten or what days to hold as special. Notice that Verse 2 says that it's the strong ones in faith who eat all things and aren't offended by it. Seems like the WT leaders, offended by birthday celebrations, are the ones showing weakness.
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Into the mystic (an experience).
by El blanko inthe following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
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Question for littleToe. I've had simlar experiences, most of which there is really no way to explain without sounding like an idiot. The first was the answer to a question that I had after leaving the WT. I really wanted to know if Millions of people were doomed. I got my answer in a simple dream. I won't even try to explain it as it was so simple as to sound rediculous to anyone else.
My question to you is have you ever experienced a strange connection to countless other people at the same time? I don't necessarilly mean people you know personally, just countless "others." It's like every move that you make, be it getting up from a chair, getting a drink of water, turning on the TV, blinking, everything you did was being done at the exact same time as the others. No way to explain how I knew/felt it, I just did. It was like being physically connected to them all. This wasn't a passing whim, it was profound!
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What do you know? And, How do you know it?
by Terry inremember how certain you were as a jw?
you just knew what you knew was right 100%
you staked your life on it, didn't you?
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In the beginning I only knew what I was told to believe. Later I began to understand where they were coming from. Eventually I gained the wisdom to see it for what it is.
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virgin birth in Matt and Luke?
by peacefulpete inrobert price (incredible shrinking son of man) has alerted me to an interesting possibility that matt and luke (that is, the original authors) may not have intended that jesus had a miraculous conception.
mark never gives any hint that he was aware of any birth tradition surrounding his jesus, matt and luke have generally been considered the first to incorporate this element into the legend.
however price and jane schaberg (baba pg.116) have reexamined the texts and come to a different conclusion.
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chappy
Don't recall where in the OT that it speaks of Christ being born from a virgin - "He will be born of a virgin". Get an interliner Bible and look at the original meaning; roughly "He will be born of a maiden". Just goes to show what changing the smallest meaning results in.
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IF YOU COULD BE GOD FOR A DAY.......what would you do?
by Terry inokay, here is your chance to straighten out the entire universe!
just like in the jim carrey movie, bruce almighty, you will be given god's job for a day.
you can control everything, though, unlike him; there is no limit to your power.
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"I would make everybody healthy, happy and successful!!! (including myself!!!)" What about what everyone else thinks healthy, happy and successful means? There are as many views about health, happyiess and success as there are people. Would you, as God, want everyone to have the free will to decide, or would you just create little cookie-cutter people? " I would tell the whole world exactly what I expect of them. I would make the Bible clear." Then you would be controlling everyone. Everything would be black or white, no room for independent thinking or free will - "This way or else". We've all heared the "this way or else" from the various religions. Some think they get that phrase from God through the Bible. That's where the ability to think and reason for ones self comes in. If you assume that this life is just a very brief interlude before an eternal existance, what better way to learn right and wrong and then choose which direction in life to take than to live a few years in this world. No matter how injust things are here and now, it's really nothing compared to eternity. Face it, evil does exist and there is no other way to learn good and evil, right and wrong, the whole game of life than to live and experience it. Any other way and we would all be robots. It really does seem easy to just fix everything and make everybody happy if you were God. Problem is that there are conciquences to everything; some obvious if you just think about it, some not. later, chappy
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Celebrating Birthdays--Disfellowshipping Offense--Where stated in WT pubs?
by blondie inblondis is asking for help.
where does it state that if a jw celebrates a brithday that it is a disfellowshipping offense.
i have searched and searched.
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I was born in Jan. '48 and I have pictures of my 1'st and 2'nd birthday parties. Also have pics of several other parties (cousens, friends etc.) My family was big in the WT and it seems there were no objections at the time. I don't remember or have pics of any parties after '51. I found the following "Questions from Readers" in the Jan. 15. 1951 WT:
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Is it proper to have or attend celebrations of birthday anniversaries??F. K., Nevada.Such celebrations have their roots in pagan religions, and not Scriptural grounds. Some Bible commentators suggest that birthday celebrations may have had their origin in the "notion of the immortality of the soul". Astrologers and stargazers laid great stress on offering sacrifices to the gods each year when the stars and planets were in the same position as when one was born. In Egyptian mythology the "birthdays of the gods" were celebrated on certain days, and in Chinese mythology individuals offered special sacrifices on their birthdays to Shou Hsing, the god of longevity. The ancient Anglo-Saxons celebrated the birthday of the "Lord Moon", spoken of as meni at Isaiah 65:11 (margin), by making cakes "called Nūr-Cakes, or Birthcakes"; and candles also are of pagan origin.?See Hislop?s Two Babylons, pages 95, 191-196.
After telling us that December 25 was the traditional birthday of Nimrod, and not of Jesus, the new book What Has Religion Done for Mankind? states: "The inspired Scriptures do not give the birth date of Jesus, and it does not matter, for neither Jesus nor God his Father nor the inspired apostles instructed us to celebrate Jesus? birthday. The only birthday celebrations that the Holy Scriptures mention are those of pagans, those of Egypt?s Pharaoh and of Herod Antipas who marked his birthday by having John the Baptist?s head chopped off. (Gen. 40:20; Matt. 14:6; Mark 6:21) Christ?s disciples of the first century shunned birthday celebrations as being pagan, unchristian!"
Doubtless many things practiced by Christians today were also practiced by pagans; but when these practices are steeped in false worship contrary to Bible principle they become objectionable. The celebration of birthday anniversaries centers the mind on the creature and exalts the creature, giving him and his birth undue importance. Romans 1:25 (NW) warns of those who "venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the One who created". Birthday celebrations could tend to take on this objectionable quality. If Christians wish to come together occasionally for profitable fellowship and relaxation, they do not have to await a day reminiscent of pagan religion. If they wish to present a brother with a gift, they do not have to await the anniversary of the day of his entry into the world, as though that were such a memorable occasion. If the precise day of Jesus? birth and its remembrance were of no such noteworthiness, whose are?
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Why Would Anyone Defend Jehovah's Witnesses??????????
by minimus inevery so often, i will read on this board, how some people will defend and apologize for what jws do or believe in.....i just don't get it.
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Muslims have been demonized and condemed routinely since '01. Much of the critisism is deserved. Are there any Muslim individuals or practices that you would defend???
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