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  Spiritual Resurrection?

  by Morocco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey everybody, i'm still pretty new here but have been lurking about the boards for sometime.

  i just had a thought and was wondering what you guys think about it.

  it was actually inspired by another thread, but it has to do with the resurrection.

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  Hellrider

  I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.
  

  It`s an interesting point you make, but I don`t think it`s meant to be taken symbolically, like you think. The JWs just ignore this verse, or believes it refers to the dead after they have been risen, but as you correctly point out, they hear this while still dead! The "dead" here means those who have (physically) passed away. There is nothing symbolical about it. In jewish thought and belief at this time, the souls (or what would then be called "spirit") of the dead did not cease to exist after the body had died. It went either to Sheol (the underworld) or to heaven (to the "bosom of Abraham").
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  He causes to become - No more

  by LtCmd.Lore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  correct me if i'm wrong but the last time the society has used the phrase 'he causes to become' was in 2004, in a review.

  it's not even mentioned in the bible teach book... which has an appendix about what gods name is and means, it says it means: i shall become whatsoever i chose.

  have they changed their minds about the meaning of gods name?

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  Hellrider

  When I was a kid, we were told that it meant "I am". The name yhwh is derived from the verb hawah, which means "to become", so "causing to become" is probably the best translation. It just took them a hundred years to figure that one out (too)...
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  A Bad experience with JW is a permit for SIN?

  by El Mariachi in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been reading some sad experinces here... i dont see anyone talking about the bible... only how misserables the organization made their lives... ok ...so because of that...now i have permission to smoke marijuana and commit fornication?

  this sounds pretty much like aa... and everybody having his/her personal "superior power" who is giving them the permit to do whatever they want...

  i've been df for 4 years now and also dont agree with some jw teachings... why instead of blaming the wt for everything dont we look for the real truth in the bible and make things right.

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  Hellrider

  FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT HAVE A BIBLE: 1 TIMOTHY 4:1 "THE SPIRIT SAYS CLEARLY THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL ABANDON THE FAITH IN LATER TIMES; THEY WILL OBEY LYING SPIRITS AND FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF DEMONS"

  Yes, that is the background for the movement now known as "Jehovahs Witnesses". They abandoned the faith, and established a religion based on astrology and numerical calculations of the Holy Book, based on ancient, jewish numerology-techniques (demonic).

  The Bible is VERY CLEAR IN WHAT SIN IS. Adultery,Stealing,Murder,Lies,Drunkenes,etc,etc.

  Which pretty much sums up what the movie character El Maricahi did in his movies. If you`re so pious, get another nickname.
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  Panty theif had JW parents

  by lost_light06 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just found this.

  back story- .

  sung koo kim was arrested and convicted of stealing thousands of womans underwear.

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  Hellrider

  Several years in prison for stealing womens underwear? Even though noone got hurt? That is way to harsh...
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  WHY I'M BECOMING A MUSLIM!

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i came across an interesting site the other day and below is an extract from one of its web pages (does anyone know if the following is actually true as i've never read the quran?).

  no wonder so many muslim men wear baggy trousers, it's to hide the erection they get when they look heavenwards!.

  what i don't understand is what's in it for the women?

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  Hellrider

  And one more thing (I saw a stand-up comedian once who talked about this): Notice the number of virgins promised to those that go to heaven. It`s 72, right? What kind of a number is that!? Sounds like a bargaining number to me...Mohammed started out on 100, Allah said 50, Mohammed said 90, Allah said 60, etc. They ended up on 72. So, what kind of religion is that!? A bargaining-religion... Damn swindlers, con-men and merchants...
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  WHY I'M BECOMING A MUSLIM!

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i came across an interesting site the other day and below is an extract from one of its web pages (does anyone know if the following is actually true as i've never read the quran?).

  no wonder so many muslim men wear baggy trousers, it's to hide the erection they get when they look heavenwards!.

  what i don't understand is what's in it for the women?

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  I wonder why they`re so obsessed about virgins! What`s the big deal of the girl being a virgin? They want girls that are no good in bed?...
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  Were dinosaurs part of a pre-Adamic "paradise"?

  by M.J. in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wts seems to affirm a lot that adam's blunder really screwed up the earth, and that the earth was not meant to be this place full of killing, disease, death, pain, etc.. but according to the wts version of the story, did god create the earth with these types of features before adam even came on the scene?

  the wts does not deny the existance of dinosaurs, who in their words were created prior to mankind during the 5th or 6th symbolic day-ages.

  yet its clear from fossilized remains that dinosaurs killed each other, had a high mortality rate, often died young, suffered from disease such as cancerous tumors: .

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  I asked my mother about the dinosaurs when I was a teenager, and why they weren`t mentioned in the Bible, on what "day" they were created, etc, why they were created, only to die out, etc. She only answered the latter part of the question, I believe her explanation was that "maybe God created them and let them die out to salt the earth". I thought that was very strange. But knowing my mother, I wonder if that was ever said in a WT or Awake. Does anyone know what the WTS has spewed out regarding the dinosaurs? Or have they just been quiet about them?
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  A JW kid that I knew is now in the insane assylum

  by headmath in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just can't believe all the trouble witness kida are having lately in my area( (vancouver b.c).

  3 years ago a witness kid (18 years old) jumped off a bridge to his death.. the latest news from the jw grapevine is that a jw kid that i knew (he is now 20) is in the insane assylum.

  it seems he was found swimming towards bethel from vancouver (he left a note) this was at least a 1000 miles away and he never would have made it.

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  Hellrider

  I hung a rope from the ceiling in my room at the age of 17, with a noose and all, and sat there looking at it. Then I hung it around my neck, and the only reason why I didn`t climb up on the chair and jump, was not because of some noble reason, that I "couldn`t do it to my family", or "I choose to live" or whatever, it was simply because I didn`t have the guts to do it. I didn`t do it because I was even more terrified of dying, and the dying moment, than living. This was a result of having been brought up in a destructive cult. No wonder that kid went nuts. Lots of jw-kids go nuts. Some kill themselves. It`s a sick, sick cult.
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  Thirdwitness -- An Agent of the Governing Body?

  by AlanF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thirdwitness -- an agent of the governing body?

  this evening i was talking with an old friend about recent postings on this forum by jw defenders.

  we concluded that something unusual is going on.

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  Hellrider

  You know, if a person shows up on a board, posts copy-paste-posts over and over again, and refuses to answer arguments against his copy-paste-posts, then that poster would fall under the TROLL-category! It was correct of the admins to kick him out, and if he shows up here again under another alias, kick him out again. People need to understand, that that guy was NOT here to discuss anything at all! He was here simply to preach, in a covert manner, of course, under the pretense of discussion, but nonetheless, he just here to PREACH! That psycho was a covert ops in so many ways I don`t know where to start, but I could read him like an open book. He is not just a regular jw, he is a psychopath-jw, you know, the ones that will eventually rise to a higher position in their whole "theocracy". If he was in his 50s (or whatever), I am pretty certain he at least is an elder. He was pure psycho, psycho, psycho. Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky.
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  Thirdwitness -- An Agent of the Governing Body?

  by AlanF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thirdwitness -- an agent of the governing body?

  this evening i was talking with an old friend about recent postings on this forum by jw defenders.

  we concluded that something unusual is going on.

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  Hellrider

  I read a bit on these guys forum, and one thing is for certain: These guys are JWS! They are NOT ex-jws, or belonging to some jw-like-sect. They are JWS! Whether or not they have backing from the GB or other highranking witnoids, I do not know. But they ARE jws!