Posts by chasson

For me, it seems there a switch in the theology of Rutherford around 1935, concerning his conspiracy theory:

It seems that he saw, from 1931-35, the Anglo-american empire (Big Business with some jews at his head - Vindication Volume 2 Pages 52-57) as the main tool of the Devil. He criticized more the Protestant clergy than the Catholic clergy at this time (I have still not found my note but i still think that we can find a kind of declaration of Rutherford in this manner in Preparation).

Even if it is possible that he has made perhaps the change relatively slowly and with some contradictions in his own writing, in the year 1938-40, the main ennemy were the totalitarian governments ("the disguting things"), and the real conspirators were the Jesuit, and not surpinsigly for everyone, he was really anti-catholic. The favorite quote of Consolation at this time was "The Converted Catholic" from Lehmann.

My surprise in reading the book Preparation and Vindication is provoked by the generalisation of the critics against "the clergy of christendom", the catholic clergy is not proeminent.

Sorry for my english.

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When Rutherford was cited by Coughlin and the Fascist Poet Pound

by chasson in

in vindication volume ii, you can find a series of letter allegdly written by the english bankers rothschild to some banker in united states.

rutherford wanted to prove by this letters the conspiracy of "money maker" for the beginning of the civil war.

(pages 170 to 179 of vindication volume ii) .

chasson

If the "Hazar Circular" is a true document and not a forgery, it is allegly published in 1862. The letters are from 1863.

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When Rutherford was cited by Coughlin and the Fascist Poet Pound

by chasson in

in vindication volume ii, you can find a series of letter allegdly written by the english bankers rothschild to some banker in united states.

rutherford wanted to prove by this letters the conspiracy of "money maker" for the beginning of the civil war.

(pages 170 to 179 of vindication volume ii) .

chasson

In Vindication Volume II, you can find a series of letter allegdly written by the english bankers Rothschild to some banker in United States. Rutherford wanted to prove by this letters the conspiracy of "money maker" for the beginning of the Civil War. (pages 170 to 179 of Vindication Volume II)

I have searched where Rutherford has found these letters, he said that it was published in an missourian newspaper in 1890, and mentioned an old men living in New-York as the man who has revealed these letters.

Couglin has made mention of these letters in "Money!" published in 1936. Ezra Pound, a fascist poet, has made reference to them in his canto 46 from his book "The Fifth Decade of Cantos" (1937). For a biography of this man see: http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/161

I have found no reference prior to the book of Rutherford (1932), i am inclined to think that it is the source of the others, that Coughlin and Pound have read the book of Rutherford and cited him (without mentionned him)

For an interesting review of this passage: http://books.google.com/books?id=My2rlb0bnx0C&pg=RA2-PA268&lpg=RA2-PA268&dq=rothschild+ikleheimer&source=web&ots=Ul9TLbMtd8&sig=fzGaq8YASk4weFfB-kcsL-bpvak#PRA2-PA268,M1

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Transcript of U.S. v. Rutherford, et al.?

by Olin Moyles Ghost in

over the past few months, i have been researching the wt society's doctrines and history.

in doing so, i have tried to use as little so-called "apostate" material as possible.

this is because (as we are all aware) witnesses are taught to fear apostate literature, and if i ever hope to enlighten any of my loved ones, i am not going to be able to do so by waving a copy of coc in their faces.

chasson

The transcriptw of the Walsh Trial and Moyle trial in Pdf are here:

http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Documents_libres_de_droit

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Bye

Charles

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Consolation on Demand

by chasson in

i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

chasson

New Scan:

Consolation May, 15 1940

Bye

Charles

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1890--"The Wonderful Story"--PDF!

by Atlantis in

1890--"the wonderful story"--pdf!--wtbts bm=bookmarked s=searchable ref=referenced (2nd copy) r=reduced from 9.0 mb to 3.6 mb russell era, 64 page booklet when advertisement pages are included.

displays picture illustrations, scripture applications, and poems.

a very "rare" booklet!

chasson

Many thanks Atlantis !!!

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New case in France

by chasson in

an ex-jw has killed herself in the parking lot of a kingdown hall.

after an investigation of the police, they have found that at the age of 15, she has suffer of sexual abuse by a jw from 1986 to 1989. this man could face a trial and 5 other witness for non denonciation of the crime to the police.. http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/depeches/societe/20080110.fap9581/un_temoin_de_jehovah_mis_en_examen_pour_viol_sur_mineur.html.

"un temoin de jehovah mis en examen pour viol sur mineure de 15 ans.

chasson

And now a TV Show on the issue on a national TV (http://www.coulisses-tv.fr/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4630): "Le suicide qui accuse. En mars 2006, à l'âge de trente ans, Joëlle s'est donné la mort. Pour en finir, elle a choisi un petit coin de campagne vosgienne, le lieu où elle disait avoir subi son premier viol alors qu'elle n'avait 11 ans. D'autres auraient suivi, tous les dimanches, pendant trois ans. Joëlle accusait un homme, comme elle et comme sa famille, membre des témoins de Jéhovah. Personne ne l'a cru. Personne n'a dénoncé ces agressions peut-être pour protéger la réputation de la communauté, même sa propre mère a gardé le silence..., un silence insoutenable qui a amené Joëlle au suicide, vingt ans plus tard." Bye Charles

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1893-"Thy Word Is Truth"-A Reply to Ingersoll-PDF!

by Atlantis in

1893-"thy word is truth"--a reply to robert ingersoll's charges against christianity--pdf!

bm=bookmarked s=searchable r=reduced from 1.8mb to 1mb this is the "revised" tract consisting of 46 pages.booklets1881 the tabernacle and its teachings 96 pages 1891 tabernacle shadows of the better sacrifices c. t. russell, 104 pages 1891 the wonderful story 60 pages, leatherette cover, illustrated 1892 the divine plan of the ages for human salvation 64 pages 1893 thy word is truth - a reply to ingersol 116 pages booklet, copyrighted in 1892, revised reissued in 18931894 harvest siftings 32 pages 1895 tabernacle shadows of the better sacrifices c. t. russell, 104 pages, copyrighted 1891, reprinted in 1895 1896 outlines of the divine plan of the ages 48 pages 1902 the parousia of our lord 78 pageshttp://www.freeminds.org/sales/wtpubs.htm#bklt advertised in the back of this booklet.

click the download link by the red arrow at the bottom of the next page.

chasson

Thanks Atlantis !!!