Your a great guy, beautiful poem, do the same as the witnesses say they do, continue to show her the love you have for her.
Such demonstration will be noticed and appreciated by your mom, in time it will help soften her position.
Posts by ocsrf
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by RichieRich inall to often, my mind drifts to my mixed feelings for my mother.
the deep love that burned in my heart for the woman who had given me life.. the suicidal remorse i felt for bringing such guilt and reproach on her good name.. the blinding anger i felt for her never questioning her beliefs, but always questioning her son.. and so i'm left with a vacuous emotional chamber for a large element that is missing from my soul.. and when you've lost your most valuable possesion, everything else is gravy on an empty plate - pointless.. and so i hurt too, and i love my mom, but does she love me?
the unanswered question haunts my mind.. we recieve, we give, and sometimes, we just plain screw up.
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My Meeting with the Elders...
by rassillon init is most likely still very far away but i wanted to share with you guys one of the things i am thinking about doing when/if i do meet.
i plan on getting my chl (concealed carry permit)
then i am going to get a shoulder holster.
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ocsrf
This is exactly the kind of thing that the organization points to when bashing those who they claim are apostate. You only cement that point of view by talking like your one foot out of the mental ward.
OC
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Are high gas prices affecting Pioneers?
by truthseeker in.
gas prices have finally broken through the $3 mark.. i have heard a few complaints about the cost of gas having an impact on people's budgets - especially if they pioneer.. it gets worse for those pioneers who drive an suv.. have you heard similar comments?
could the pioneer numbers be affected by the price of gas?
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ocsrf
What it probably will do is: curtail the driving across the territory for one call and than back to other side. I remember doing alot of driving like that years ago and didn't give it much thought and didn't really worry about the time it ate up.
OC
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FROM the source about downsizing
by Pistoff ini toured wallkill in the last month; the tour guide stated, in very clear terms, that the wt leadership is "sending home" many older couples and older ones, and replacing them with younger ones as they need to.
he did say it was because their experience was of more use in the field.
(snicker.
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ocsrf
So do I get this straight? They lived at Bethel where they had a room, cleaned regularly, went to the dining hall for regular meals, and possibly went to the K.Hall right in the building since they were older. Now, will they get some sort of living accomodations? They may not even know how to cook, let alone have furniture and cooking utensils.Plus, they are old, but expected to be special pioneers? Is this true?
Basically, this is what is happening. I will say most of the ones I have known from bethel are quite capable of day to day activities like cooking and the like. The real issue, is being asked to leave a home you sacrificed for. These couples did not to have children, because in order to stay in Bethel that would not be permitted. So not only do they not have the normal everyday material things most of us take for granted, but in many cases their mothers and fathers are older or have died, they don't have children to ask for help from, so they are completely dependant on the mercy of the local congregation, this would scare me. Kind of sucks for all the local congregations as well, they get stuck having to look after these folks while mother (society) moves on with the hiring of more young ones. OC
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FROM the source about downsizing
by Pistoff ini toured wallkill in the last month; the tour guide stated, in very clear terms, that the wt leadership is "sending home" many older couples and older ones, and replacing them with younger ones as they need to.
he did say it was because their experience was of more use in the field.
(snicker.
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ocsrf
During the service meeting this week, there is an article that is discussed about setting goals and reaching them such as (baptism, aux. pioneer, reg. pioneer and bethel service) so for the young bethel service is still held out as a goal and encouraged. By the comments from those at he meeting, it sounds to me like they are either unaware of those who have had to leave or just don't care. They seem very excited to have the opportunity to send their kids to New York to work. I don't think they fully realize how devasting this action will be for some of these older couples. I know whenever a public company does this kind of thing they get really bad press.
As far as I know, only those who are sent as special pioneers will recieve any monies from the Society, once these folks get out into the real world, what do you all think will be the percentage of them that will stay in the Special pioneer service? I am thinking the drop off will be a large percent, if this is the case, than the Society has won the battle, because than they will no longer have any obligation to these folks what so ever. Sure, perhaps a couple or two could threaten a suit, but that would mean becoming an apostate and being shunned by everyone they have ever know or loved....Wow, what a great future that is!
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A partial email from a j-dub regarding the convention.
by Highlander ini can't post all of it and it's not going to be written exactly as i received it cuz i don't want to expose myself.
another thing that i came away with was the realization of how close we are to the end of this system
it was brought out that the great tribulation will strike suddenly, without warning, and that we should
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ocsrf
The argument that things are worse now than ever before is the banter the Society has published for decades, at what point is it the worst? Was it not bad in the 60s and 70s, Vietnam and sexual revolution was taking place? Was it bad during the roaring 20s when Al Capone gunned people down in the street? Was it not bad during the middle ages when people would be tortured in any number of ways? Natural disasters have always been there for man to deal with. That scripture that talks about all those things could be read at anytime in history and people could relate to its truthfulness, because if something bad is happening to us or something we can see with our own eyes, we of course will think it is worst than people ever had to deal with before. I am sure Witness Katrina victims would be sold on this concept 100%; however, is the New O. disaster the worst flood disaster to affect man, hardly.
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FROM the source about downsizing
by Pistoff ini toured wallkill in the last month; the tour guide stated, in very clear terms, that the wt leadership is "sending home" many older couples and older ones, and replacing them with younger ones as they need to.
he did say it was because their experience was of more use in the field.
(snicker.
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ocsrf
It is interesting to note that at the DC this year they had a 1/2 hour talk about giving special consideration to those who have put many faithful years into full time service. I suppose that is meant for the congregations but is not followed by the GB towards their own hard workers.
By the way, they only get help after leaving if they are special pioneers or perhaps circuit overseer. Not if they are going to pioneer.
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DC, all but gave directions to the JWD site
by ocsrf in.
i found the dc very interesting this year do to my reading of this site.
i took note that the danger of the internet was menitioned no less than three times, once with a demonstration showing a brother who found a site by a innocent search of the web on a jw subject to the very last talk, concluding remarks and final "resolution" that consisted of 10 items with number 10 staying away from dangerous sites and chat rooms.. makes you wonder what the real story is behind that much attention being given to this problem iof theirs.. oc
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ocsrf
If that was the exact quote, it is as about as close to a personal invitation to "search" as you can get. Somebody at headquarters is either very naive or very smart. You be the judge.
Axel
Wow, you are right, can you imagine someone writing this skit with the idea that they wanted the audience to actually do that search...lol.
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DC, all but gave directions to the JWD site
by ocsrf in.
i found the dc very interesting this year do to my reading of this site.
i took note that the danger of the internet was menitioned no less than three times, once with a demonstration showing a brother who found a site by a innocent search of the web on a jw subject to the very last talk, concluding remarks and final "resolution" that consisted of 10 items with number 10 staying away from dangerous sites and chat rooms.. makes you wonder what the real story is behind that much attention being given to this problem iof theirs.. oc
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Ocsrf, these were my notes at the DC regarding researching info on JW's...
11:10 Delivered from the trap of the Birdcatcher - *** APOSTATE ALERT!!! ***
Satan is the Great Birdcatcher, always looking for a way to catch JW's. How does he do this?
Satan uses four methods:
1) Fear of man
2) Materialism - Get Rich Quick Schemes - speaker failed to mention any examples.
3) Entertainment
4) Personal differences and divisions
Other traps - Satan is cunning, he tries to ban the work - case of Ohio v Stratton mentioned (where JW's had to get a permit to preach)
DEMONSTRATION: A brother decides to search on the Internet for progress reports on the JW Hurrican Katrina relief work. He uses a search engine (not specified which search engine) and finds an article.
Then he says, "What's this? Negative talk about the Governing Body? I don't need this, the society mentioned about apostates opposing us on the Internet. I think I'll go to the official website of the Watchower"
SIDE NOTE: The mention of searching for JW news articles on the Internet AND the mention of the brother finding NEGATIVE TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNING BODY is the FIRST example I have ever heard given of what a witness could find on the Internet about JW's and not just the usual "half-truths and apostate lies" mentioned.
It seems there is some desperation there - how many witnesses must have found out negative things concerning the Governing Body?
Thank you, never was much for taking notes and now that I don't buy into it, I am even worst about doing it; however, I will say, I was more tempted than ever, but for the other reason and that is to blow wholes in their arguments. Perhaps you can post the "Resolution" I think many would find that of interest, especially point 10. OC
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DC, all but gave directions to the JWD site
by ocsrf in.
i found the dc very interesting this year do to my reading of this site.
i took note that the danger of the internet was menitioned no less than three times, once with a demonstration showing a brother who found a site by a innocent search of the web on a jw subject to the very last talk, concluding remarks and final "resolution" that consisted of 10 items with number 10 staying away from dangerous sites and chat rooms.. makes you wonder what the real story is behind that much attention being given to this problem iof theirs.. oc
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ocsrf
Yes, they actually did show a brother with his lap top and showed him going threw the motions that led him up to the site with questionable apostate material.
Yes, they mentioned Porn no less than three times as well, so I agree Porn is a huge issue as well, but no, I am not mistaken about the concern of the brothers some how getting caught up in the apostate material found on the web. That point was crystal clear and could not have been missed by anyone who was awake at the time.
OC