OMG! I never thought they would get that bold.
Isaac
there was a thread a few months back that contained a scan of (i think) the dec 15th watchtower where they said that the watchtower was to be considered part of the bible.
i really want to find that thread, i've been looking for hours i thought i had commented on it but it's not in my 'threads posted on' and i've been going through pages and pages and pages of threads and i've tried search but just can't find it.. .
does anyone who might have posted on that thread have a link to it?
OMG! I never thought they would get that bold.
Isaac
this is from someone that is waiting to join as soon as the site starts taking new registrations.
he has a question for the board.. .
i also see ya posted my letter on the board...is there really a lot waiting to get it 'in'?
I personally have always felt that this "challenge" is something manufactured by WTBTS so they could explain world events. After all, where in Job or anywhere in the Bible is some challenge put to God on the question of "universal sovreignty"? Even that term is something bot found in the Bible.
Isaac Carmignani
i recently asked a girl out.
she was excited to go so we nailed down some plans and i bought some tickets for a live show at a theater.
the show was for 7:30 pm on friday.
I'd say mature women who have nothing to hide, well their behavior is normal and not that complicated. They are mature and don't "yank people's chains". There may very well be something wrong with this one.
Isaac
yeah i know....so i like "introductions that arouse interests" on my subject lines!
but the danger is at the end of this post, not the beginning.
this is actually a very serious thread for oompa... and not my first, but i apologize in advance for it being the longest i have ever posted.
Thank goodness for a laptop where I can get other things done and view JWN while on the road. I find I need this place, or something like it. Its okay so long as it doesn't replace RW. And for me it definitely doesn't. With family in who I refuse to simply ignore due to "Christian" love that I have for them, and a daughter who they would love to enslave, I am regularly confronted with the effects of this cult. This board is a way of dealing with that through learning from and sharing with others who are going through the same things. Its the "whole association of brothers " I guess working here.
Isaac
me and my jw wifey were talking this morning.
the conversation was about her aunt that's dying of cancer.
we were discussing the issue of death and i mentioned that there is nothing we can do about it and that we will all have to go thru it at one time or another and she agreed and even spoke further about it.. i am thinking wtf, "what about everlasting life", since this is what they preach and are taught.
The official teaching is Yes you may die. But with the ""urgency" of the end, most JWs get the impression that THEY won't have to face death. Unless they get baptized when they're very old and/or sick. Funny though how Witnesses seem to be realizing that only the resurrection will make the dream of everlasting life come true. Even my uber Witness Mom said to me the other day that the 'new order' will probably come in the life of MY great grand kids. Say what??? She bought a plot and plans to die in THIS system! And she's only 64 and in good health.
Isaac
growing up a jw makes a person unique, long after you leave.
even though i strongly disagree with much of what i was taught, i still am tainted by my upbringing in that i think a thought and then correct myself with what i now should think (or visa versa, think something and then remember what i once would have thought).. even now that i am far removed from watchtower thinking, i still feel somewhat of an alien from those around me.
though i am loved at work, i feel they laugh at me more than they laugh with me.. for some time now, i have been meaning to chronograph the concepts that a witness child is indocrinated with to show just how damaging an upbringing it is.
still am tainted by my upbringing in that I think a thought and then correct myself with what I now should think (or visa versa, think something and then remember what I once would have thought).
OMG! So I'm not the only one! That site is Awesome! I guess I have a long way to go in leaving. But it's not like I haven't moved on. I am extremely functional as an ex ex-JW. Its just as you said, for some of us it was a very life encompassing experience.
Isaac
i have heard this expression a few times recently.. and isn't is so true?.
i am fairly young.
i have good health.
I agree 150%.
Isaac
for those of you who remembered that i had a date mon this week.
it was fantastic!
we both fell a bit in love with each other and saw each other on tue night again.
I will say this: I went out with a girl about a year and a half ago who said the same thing. However she didn't mean we would never talk again. Simply I was moving too fast. I realized that I still had some dub think about marriage which may have been coloring MY vision.
in 1978, jerry murray, a jw elder, interviewed hayden covington, the watch tower attorney who had a prominent role in legal matters for the watch tower society before the u.s. supreme court.
for those who have never heard this interview before,the murray interview is seventy-five minutes long and now can be found on my website, www.watchtowerdocuments.com.
scroll down to the year, 1978. .
Wow, you've put a lot of stuff here since my last visit. Nice.
Isaac
i don't see much of a difference between islamic jihadists and watchtower jihadists.. .
islamic jihadists think only they have the truth.. watchtower jihadists think only they have the truth.. islamic jihadists want to kill everyone who disagrees with their beliefs.. watchtower jihadists want god to kill everyone who disagrees with their beliefs.. any questioning of islamic jihadists' beliefs will result in death.. any questioning of watchtower jihadists' beliefs will result in death.. islamic jihadists have no problem with innocent babies and children being brutally murdered for their cause.. watchtower jihadists have no problem with innocent babies and children being brutally murdered for their cause.. islamic jihadists have wacky beliefs like those who die for their cause will be rewarded with 72 virgin women in paradise.. watchtower jihadists have wacky beliefs like those who die for their cause won't even be allowed to have sex or marry in paradise.. islamic jihadists' main cause is to have a world government administered by them.. watchtower jihadists' main cause is to have a world government administered by them.. islamic jihadists think women are chattel.. watchtower jihadists think women are chattel.. islamic jihadists sincerely believe they are engaged in a holy war.. watchtower jihadists sincerely believe they are engaged in a holy war.. when there is a dispute between an islamic jihadist and his wife, the man is always right.. when there is a dispute between a watchtower jihadist and his wife, the man is always right.. islamic jihadists hide out in caves.. watchtower jihadists hide out in kingdom halls, which aren't that much different from caves.. islamic jihadists use weapons of mass destruction.. watchtower jihadists use books of mass destruction.. islamic jihadists are always suspicious of each other.. watchtower jihadists are always suspicious of each other.. islamic jihadists have no regard for other's lives.. watchtower jihadists have no regard for other's lives.. islamic jihadists claim to belong to a religion of peace.. watchtower jihadists claim to belong to a religion of peace.. islamic jihadists instantly commit suicide by blowing themselves up.. watchtower jihadists slowly commit suicide by wasting their lives selling worthless books.. islamic jihadists punish their members by chopping off their hands.. watchtower jihadists punish their members by chopping off their families and friends.. you can't reason with an islamic jihadist.
his mind is made up.. you can't reason with a watchtower jihadist.
Absolutely, been saying this for years. JWs only avoid being called terrorists because they don't use "carnal" weapons. Brilliant strategy of 'da Judge'.
Isaac Carmignani