It makes absolutely no sense in our world, especially if you don't subscribe to the dubious concept of God. But I'd imagine it would make sense in the past if people felt they were giving something valuable to the powerful deity.
Isaac
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Sacrafice, why?
by VM44 inhow did the idea develope among the semite people that sacrafice, the destruction of animal life, would be pleasing to god?.
what purpose does it serve?.
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WT 15th April apostates / new light on miscarriages
by dozy instudy articles have strong counsel against apostates - modern day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the devil.
their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude towards individuals in the congregations , christian elders or the governing body.
some apostates oppose the use of the divine name , jehovah.
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2009 QFR 15 th Apr Stillborn = probably Embryos = probably Foetuses = probably
Gee boys how do you know? Is it the same way you "knew" in 1969 and 1984? If my father is the Devil now how do you know? Huh? You knew it was Jehovah when I was an elder. How do you know anything?
Isaac Carmignani
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Cool, nice to find family.
Isaac
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Happy Birthday Caliber.
Isaac
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For all you ex-cons down under Happy Australia Day.
Isaac
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Has your " Self Esteem " Improved After Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses ?
by flipper init seems to be an issue that some have after leaving the witness cult because none of us were ever made to feel we were " good " enough or "valued " enough for what we were trying to accomplish in the cult.
growing up i had pounded into my head by my jw elder father what jesus said, " after doing all things remember you are good for nothing slaves , what we have done is what we ought to have done.
" then i thought to myself - " where's the joy in that ?
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" After doing all things remember you are good for nothing slaves , what we have done is what we OUGHT to have done. "
That is one of the statements that makes me wonder about the Bible. I could never really stomach that one. I've never been particularly lacking in self-esteem, but definitely confidence, simply because of the training to follow that I received as a JW. Now my confidence is slowly being built. I try to savor each success, even the small ones. It really helps.
Isaac
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To SO CAL: What CO's and DO's do we all know?
by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH inokay, in order it goes like this for me............brother peace 1980-83, brother rose 1984-86, brother yasko 1986-88, brother sekella 1988-91, brother billy ford 1992-95, brother davis 1996-99, brother irskin 2000-03 and then it gets kinda blurry....brother burge and another, brother hairston.
okay, that just about does it.
i have this topic becauce i tried reading the favorite co and do thread, but did not recognize any names......
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Well, my ignorance of these folks tells mne they don't move these overseers between coasts. Save of course for the ones Worf mentioned JC Howard and Dison. Howard always sounded tired. If he was df'd, Wow, he was so into "the truth". Now here are some we had here on the Eastern seaboard:
Frank O'Bard, John Manning, Darrell Marlowe, Hollis Milligan, James Cauthon, Robert Milofski, Willis Bentley, Angelo Catanzarro, Leora Brown, Frank Bartel to name a few.
Isaac
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Witness Wife Seeks Divorce Because JW Husband Hits Her & Mentally Abuses
by minimus inso she went into the refuge of her elder grandfather who has taken care of her and the 2 kids.
but the other elders told him that because she was getting an unscriptural divorce and the husband was in denial about being abusive, he had to kick her and the grand kids out or else lose his eldership.
(he has taught elder's school and is highly regarded).. so grandpa gave them the news that they have to get out!
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That requirement to kick them out makes me think of AllTimeJeff's recent thread on how different congregations are different based on the collective conscience of the elder body. There is certainly no WT written rule on this.
The grandfather needs to do some research there is nothing in the WTS literature that condemns scriptural divorce based on physical abuse so long as she remains unmarried. I was told my my elders I could divorce but would have to remain unmarried until my abusive JW committed fornication or I did. They could not disfellowship me for divorcing me and there was no need for me to be shunned. The councel the Elders is in accurate unless they have changed something from 8 years ago.
The above is what the rules are with one exception: A person's OWN fornication is not grounds for Scriptural divorce as per the WT. This is to close a loophole that would allow anyone to go have sex to get out of a marriage easily. Of course this tends to get communicated verbally at CO meetings with elders and KM schools since no Scripture explicitly states this.
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Leaving the Organization but not the teachings
by donny inwhen i left the witnesses in 1992 after ten years in the orgainzation, i got as far away from the teachings and mindest as i could.
however some, like my former brother-in-law, also left, but are intent on finding ways to reform the society from within since he believes in the society as being of god, but that it has become misguided and is slowly drifting to "christendom" status.
one of the things he cites as evidence is the wtbts become aligned with the united nations.
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And that examination is essential for true freedom from this cult.
Isaac
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"I Don't Know is my Belief"
by zarco inon another thread, ak-jeff shared an interesting perspective........ "i don't know is my belief.. .
i care.
but typically, i get no answers when i ask.
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"I don't know" is my core creed. I call it suspending judgment. Meaning that I suspended judgement on the God issue pending concrete evidence one way or the other. Right now I focus on reality, and helping others.
Isaac