Good. Makes me think they realized they might not win. Actually they have acknowledged this in general regarding minors. Of course it may be better that they fight these cases. It shows the world how uncaring they really are.
Isaac
i'm not sure if this story has already been posted but it's interesting.. a witness woman in ireland was given a blood transfusion and the appeal against the hospital has been dropped:.
"legal representatives for a jehovahs witness have abandoned an appeal into what is believed to be the first instance in ireland where a court ordered a blood transfusion to be given to an adult against her will...".
to read the rest click here.
Good. Makes me think they realized they might not win. Actually they have acknowledged this in general regarding minors. Of course it may be better that they fight these cases. It shows the world how uncaring they really are.
Isaac
someone i know is having a hard time with anxiety attacks.
she hasn't been a jw since a teen.
recently she has started seeing a therapist.
This is one of those threads that helps me understand myself and why anxieties I felt have disappeared in inverse proportion to my distance from the Witness religion. To comment on some items early on in this thread that I found interesting:
Many emergency planners do recommend keeping at least one month worth of food around and rotating the stock so that it is fresh. Such a stash is not likely to be needed as we live in a pretty secure world, at least in First World countries. But it's better safe than sorry I suppose.
While images are the clear offender when it comes damaging young minds, let's face it, some of the raw info in the Bible is just as nasty. When we as a species allow for the possibility that religious texts like the Bible may have simply been written by sadistic, narrow minded, cultish, psychotic, substance abusive, uneducated by our standards, and mysoginistic men, we will have gone a long way towards advancing the state of humankind as a whole.
i was speaking to a family member who is still a jw in very good standing and she told me that last week she was told by an elder of very good repute in my old congregation this:-.
he has been told that any of the current governing body when they die will not be replaced!!!!!!!!!!.
i cannot even begin to take this in!.
Hearsay is all that is. Not until something like that were in writing would it be holy writ. Actually rumors of that have spread for a while. The operating philosophy is that control would shift to members of the great crowd. The bringing in of the "given ones" and the enhanced role of the branch offices were all supposed moves in that direction. But nowhere have I ever seen any direct indication that the GB are ready to ride off into the proverbial sunset. I have a feeling it would fuel so much speculation on when the end is coming that it would become an embarassment. But it's great to fantasize....
Isaac
an elder from a nearby cong allegedly rendered a resignation letter to company director ("with immidiate effect")after his departmental manager(a former jw) was df'd..... apparently this "brother" didn't even think twice about giving up his job, even though we are in a recession...... he decided to put "kingdom interests" first, ( matthew 6:33).. is this really what jehovah wants his "people" to go through?.
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I think with his stories afgbm just has a way of satirically drawing attention to the JW behaviors that make little sense. Maybe like Jesus, you know speaking in parables.
declaration of freedom.
free to be more tolerant of others' beliefs .
free to be more tolerant of other's lifestyles (because they are none of my business) .
Mouthy said what I was feeling: Its GREAT to be free!
another one of my second cousins killed himself today.
he was 42 and still a jw.
he called 911 and shot himself while talking to them.
I'm so sorry for your loss. This is not common for JWs. Most JWs just have a low level malaise thing going on. Its unfortunate and something many of us have dealt with. Feel free to avail yourself of whatever help you need, both here and secularly.
Isaac
when i discussed this with some ex-jws in the past, they have pointed out to me that the following is not done in actual pracrice.
of course it is not done in practrice ... that is why i referred to it as a "secret" because elders do not normally disclose such information, either because they fear its effect, or because they have not thoroughly paid attention to the "pay attention" book.
in this post, i am not arguing about actual practice ... rather what the undisclosed, withheld, secretive information is ... and how being armed may allow """some""" jws to relax their conscience.. a secret that elders will not openly tell you.
You are absolutely right Amazing and Thanks for pointing this out. This is why I still have a relationship with my parents.
further research that i did in gilead that led me out of the borg.... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sypppyso6ae.
enjoy!.
I loved the ending. That quote from the 1954 WT explains JW's so precisely.
how many here remember the horrible day 14 years ago when the murrah federal building was bombed?.
i can still remember what i was doing when i heard the news of it..
I remember it well. I was at work. I travel a lot to Norman OK for work. Norman is 20 miles from OKC, so it hit home. In fact I went to see the site a few months later. It was still devastated.
back in the 70's wt had this thingy going on where they thought the figurative heart may indeed be the literal heart....like it had cells in it that affected your thinking....esp on things of emotion...(i swear i am not makin this sheeite up)...i went to a district convention back then that had two six foot, thin paper boxes on stage, with lights inside.....on the outside of each box was a painting of a brain and a heart.......and when the person offstage was talking.....one of the boxes would light up.......like sometimes it was the brain talking.......sometimes it was the heart talking............but most of the time since i was a teen and the chicks were hot......my dick did all the talkin.............oompa.
sorry got off topic at the end....but anyone remember that dc or material?.
I remember that convention so clearly. It was back when conventions ran into the evening hours. We were at Yankee Stadium and that drama was at night so the lighted heart and brain were clearly visible. As mentioned already dramas pierced the boredom and I always remembered them.