Horrible, embarrassed, uncomfortable, which is why I didn't do it much. rules be damned. When I became an elder I used the rules to say at least a Hello or flash a smile their direction.
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how did you feel when you shunned disfellowshipped ones?
by looloo ini am trying to get in the mindset of my jw inlaws and trying to understand how they can shun my hub (their bro and son ) and not come to visit my 5 year old child (grandchild and neice) i dont think i blame them as individuals but i feel real mad with the ones who must make them feel guilty for bothering with us in the past but can longer do so in good conscience .
i never was a jw but how did some of you cope with the shunning thing and did you feel bad ?.
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Someone who doesn't appreciate the WBTS latest tract campaign
by Mickey mouse ini quite like the letter of complaint.
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All I can say is...what a bunch of jerks.
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Has anyone got anything positive from the WT organisation?
by BloominMarvellous ineveryone seems to just hate the wt.. i am very upset with the way ive been treated but i dont hate them.. they have given me huge self confidence after helping me out of depression, although i have a fab counsellor, so they cant get all the credit.
they have made me independent as well, (i think my ex-study conductor regrets that!
) i suddenly have a mind of my own and am not afraid to use it.. i owe them quite a lot they have really helped me through some bad times but they have created some bad times for me too.
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Public speaking, a trade, both of which got me employment and a start in politics.
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Loving provisions from Groverning body
by bobld inthe new field arrangement for bethel workers.they will not work on saturdays mornings.remember how.
the wbts was pushing that everyone should visit bethel.they even had a special brochure on how one.
should dress when visiting bethel.no doubt some made plans well ahead of time to visit bethel hq this.
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This will make it harder for people to see Bethel. Personally I think this is also an indication of how low morale must be over there. This smacks of a last minute after thought type notification, almost as if their people are so over worked and demoralized this just kind of slipped through the cracks. They are probably overrunning their headlights in a whole bunch of areas.
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Is there a part of you eating away from the inside wishing you could show the world who you are and what you found out?
by StoneWall inand does it seem like it is getting harder to keep in with each and every day?.
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(Jeremiah
20:9)9 And I said: “I am not going to make mention of him, and I shall speak no more in his name.” And in my heart it proved to be like a burning fire shut up in my bones; and I got tired of holding in, and I was unable [to endure it]. . . -
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Seattle "Brother" Curtis Shane Thompson gets life, but not in the New World
by Nathan Natas insee: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009322781_webthompson10m.html.
thompson sentenced to life for 2004 murder.
curtis thompson, a convicted sex predator already facing life in prison for other crimes, was sentenced today to life in prison for killing a seattle woman in the sand point neighborhood nearly five years ago.. by jennifer sullivan.
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Now I lost track of this one. Is Brother Thompson still a JW? Or was he DF'd? He sounds either very defiant of the "superior authorities" or very mentally ill. Not to mention dangerous. I mean when you want to kill your own lawyer, something's wrong....
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New Songbook
by snowbird ini hope this one will be dropped: jehovah our father in heaven; oh, this is a most sacred night; twas nisan 14 when your glory was seen .... i hated that song!.
sylvia.
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That music is all control stuff and propaganda. I think about how I have pleasant memories attached to many of them, yet it's the memorized lyrics that go through my mind every so often. So I can end up humming and repeating something I not only don't believe in, but in many ways detest, such as FDS references.
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Very confused-help please
by hatchetsup injust found this board late last night and can't stop reading, it's fascinating.. let me give you a quick background of myself.
i was born a jw, never baptized, was labeled bad association when i was 12 due to having all worldy friends and smoking, lol.
i was very confused how being that young i could be labelled as that but i was.
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Welcome hatchetsup. Never forget that freedom of choice is something that once under JW influence can be very hard to get back. You were never baptized, therefore never a JW. Be careful when down due to a traumatic loss, of getting in the sphere of influence of ANY controlling group. It is dangerous as the people who want to control have little understanding or concern for you as a person. They always have their own agendas. There are very few things as dangerous as being under the influence of those who would control you for your supposed own good.
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INSIGHT Vol 1= "Noahs grandson raped him while noah was drunk." What??
by Witness 007 inreding insight volume on "canaan" p.399-400 today i come across this unkown watchtower theory...noahs grandson canaan sexually abused noah while he was drunk!
firstly can i say....yuck, why would he...noah was 580 years old!
gen 9;22 "the expression "saw his fathers nakedness" may indicate some abuse or perversion that involved canaan is a reasonable conclusion.
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You're so right Balsam. They can't just leave well enough alone. The "Jewish publication" referred to just suggests something "abominable". WT has to do their 'here is what that term means in some other part of the Bible' and over analyze the thing. They make so many mistakes that way.
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INSIGHT Vol 1= "Noahs grandson raped him while noah was drunk." What??
by Witness 007 inreding insight volume on "canaan" p.399-400 today i come across this unkown watchtower theory...noahs grandson canaan sexually abused noah while he was drunk!
firstly can i say....yuck, why would he...noah was 580 years old!
gen 9;22 "the expression "saw his fathers nakedness" may indicate some abuse or perversion that involved canaan is a reasonable conclusion.
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it-1pp.399-400Canaan***
Following the incident regarding Noah’s drunkenness, Canaan came under Noah’s prophetic curse foretelling that Canaan would become the slave of both Shem and Japheth. (Ge 9:20-27) Since the record mentions only that “Ham the father of Canaan saw his father’s nakedness and went telling it to his two brothers outside,” the question arises as to why Canaan rather than Ham became the object of the curse. Commenting on Genesis 9:24, which states that when Noah awoke from his wine he “got to know what his youngestson had done to him,” a footnote in Rotherham’s translation says: “Undoubtedly Canaan, and not Ham: Shem and Japheth, for their piety, are blessed; Canaan, for some unnamed baseness, is cursed; Ham, for his neglect, is neglected.” Similarly, a Jewish publication, ThePentateuchandHaftorahs, suggests that the brief narrative “refers to some abominable deed in which Canaan seems to have been implicated.” (Edited by J. H. Hertz, London, 1972, p. 34) And, after noting that the Hebrew word translated “son” in verse 24 may mean “grandson,” this source states: “The reference is evidently to Canaan.” TheSoncinoChumash also points out that some believe Canaan “indulged a perverted lust upon [Noah],” and that the expression “youngest son” refers to Canaan, who was the youngest son of Ham.—Edited by A. Cohen, London, 1956, p. 47.
These views, of necessity, are conjectural since the Biblical record does not give any details as to Canaan’s implication in the offense against Noah. Yet some implication seems definitely intended by the fact that, just before relating the case of Noah’s drunkenness, Canaan is abruptly introduced into the account (Ge 9:18) and, in describing Ham’s actions, the record refers to him as “Ham the father of Canaan.” (Ge 9:22) That the expression “saw his father’s nakedness” may indicate some abuse or perversion that involved Canaan, is a reasonable conclusion. For in most instances incest or other sexual sins are meant when the Bible speaks of ‘laying bare’ or ‘seeing the nakedness’ of another. (Le 18:6-19; 20:17) So, it is possible that Canaan had committed or attempted to commit some abuse on the unconscious Noah and that Ham, though having knowledge of this, failed either to prevent it or to take disciplinary action against the offender, and compounded the wrong by making known to his brothers Noah’s disgrace.