What Metatron and Stillajwexelder said. Add to that that these acts can be with someone of the same sex and still be considered adultery.
Isaac
i was an elder many years and only sat in on one case of marital infedilty.
since there was a confession in this instance.
we didn't need to know anything about the "act" (and none of us really wanted to know).
What Metatron and Stillajwexelder said. Add to that that these acts can be with someone of the same sex and still be considered adultery.
Isaac
on the thread about 'moving on after leaving the witnesses', it brought to mind how hard it is to build new friendships .. for me i have been out for a little over three years .
i knew before i quit that it would be important to fill the void that would be left when old "friends" began dropping us .
lucky for me i worked with some very fun out going people at my job .
I have made new friends in two places. Work and my school community. I started this process even before leaving. In both cases I have built on my strengths and not had to change myself too much. What I mean is that my co-workers know about the JW's and so I can be open with them. In my school community I've tapped into my volunteer and leadership skills I developed as a JW and an elder. I use both and find that I fit right in. If you'd like, PM me and we can talk either that way or by phone if you would like to hear more of my story.
Isaac
...crisis of conscience and combatting cult mind control in my possession!!
bought them today!!.
i can't say enough how much this site has helped me thus far!
Awesome. It's always great to see someone learning what is wrong with WT rather than simply leaving because of the stress.
Isaac
hello, some of you may know me by my screen name others probably don't.
so a friendly hello and a quick bio for those who don't know me.. .
i am 25, d/a'd when i was 22. i was a born-in, my family shuns me because of my d/a'ing.
Welcome to the club here. Come as often as you like. Sometimes I'm sporadic too due to my busy and satisfying life after the org and my odd work hours.
Isaac
I've seen many things. But the unwritten encouragement given is to wait at least one year. The congo one is in gets the details if too far away from the disfellowshipping congo to facilitate a hearing. It then conveys those details along with it's opinion to the original congo. The original one makes the final decision. They have the case notes and generally do NOT forward those notes to the new congo. Elders are given training at KM school and extension classes at CA time as to how to proceed on specific issues that may have recently burned elders in the circuit or that may come from the branch office. CO's are rarely contacted unless they happen to be visiting or the case is unusual. They can go off of a first letter but many times don't as they want to be sure that you are "repentant".
Isaac
russell was to inherit a clothing store franchise....he could have been as big as k-mart today!
instead he created an organisation known around the world as "the watchtower society" which has enslaved 7 million people with it's rules and lies.
this organisation owns half of new york and millions of dollars worth of properties, so was it a good or bad investment?
But what a waste of money. Starting a bogus religion when it could have gone to actually helping mankind.
Isaac
this has to be the biggest piece of s*** i have heard of within the religion.
the last i know, they called marriage a "gift" from god, itself stupid.
if you are not married, you are single--and they are calling that a "gift" too?
Well it was Jesus who called it a "gift". Of course the Bible doesn't account for much in terms of consistency. I'd say singleness the way the Bible teaches it is no gift. Why be alone as one gets older? A good partner with whom one can share mutual love and respect, there is nothing better. Of course finding that one is the challenge. And perhaps the real gift when found.
Isaac
(of the still searching class)
our exit from the watch tower society was fairly speedy.
within about 3 months, we'd ceased attending meetings and lost all of our friends (apart from hobo ken and his wife).. what was shocking - and only confirmed that we were right to leave - was how our decision was met by our so-called friends.. we were leaving behind people whom we'd enjoyed friendship for over 20 years.
we were leaving behind friends who were closer to us than our own families were.
Whenever I read stories like this I'm amazed. I went through this and it was so painful. Even knowing it was coming I still felt alone, like maybe it was something unique to me. Or something I did wrong or offensive. It seemed so unnatural. I had one friend, we were in each other's weddings, I was his best man. I can't help but wonder what he thinks when he looks at those pictures. I wrote all of my friends individually explaining what was happening. Some did respond but for the most part the silence was deafening.
Isaac
new anointed rejected by the wt-society.
i listened through the lates download wt, june 15, 2009. www.jw.org there is an article: the faithful steward and its governing body.. this article makes it clear that new anointed will not be consulted in preparing spiritual food.
other sheep are also told in other words not to listen to the opinion of new anointed in the congregations.. .
As undercover mentioned, they never consulted the majority of the "anointed". They don't even know who they are! And dubs have always accepted this. A "spirit directed organization" can be mystical about where they get ideas and no one really cares. Save for the few who see what you see, get sick of it, and leave.
Isaac
right now i am filled with burning hatred towards the wbts.
not just to what it has done to me and my family but to people all over the world.
i want to see nothing but the governing body exposed as the charlatans that they are and for all to see the great evil that is the wbts.
I know I don't feel indifferent. I hope I never do because even in some small way I can help others avoid being victimized by this group. That being said, it would be easier to forget about them if I didn't have family trying to indoctrinate my daughter, or parents who think the world of this assinine religion. However that does not mean that being angry at WT is the main focus of my life. I have a wonderful career and am active in community affairs. I have great friends and a wonderful relationship with my kid.
The nice thing to remember is that it's okay to feel differently at different times. We don't need to buy into the WT philosophy that anger felt towards them indicates that we are bitter, unforgiving hatemongers. We are people with different makeups and experiences. And we have every right to feel what we feel. Now if it is impacting health and/or preventing one from being functional in one's life then changing how you feel may be in your best interest. Otherwise hey, a feeling isn't + or -. It just is.
Isaac