I've known several, even served on the committee of one. It's more common than the GB would ever want to admit.
Isaac
ok ,so if new annointed ones can still come about , who here has ever heard of any annointed ones in their congregation or surrounding congregations getting disfellowshipped or simply fading out of the organization.
thus allowing some new annointed one to take their place?.
and if someone says "hey i am annointed" do they have to check with bethal who then checks a list or something to see if there is a annointed one somewhere in the world who just got d'fd?.
I've known several, even served on the committee of one. It's more common than the GB would ever want to admit.
Isaac
i was disappointed in this book, i kept reading it hoping it would get better.
i guess i got spoiled by this forum.
i have found better writings and stories here and a heck of a lot more humor.
I found it good as well. My way of thinking when I was a JW in some ways closely tracked hers. So it was helpful in processing some of the thoughts and feelings of those days in my own mind. The dissonance produced by WT's way of thinking can be devastating to anyone with any kind of perfectionistic tendencies or OCD. That may be what affected the author.
Isaac
hi all, i've been reading here for awhile and made a few posts before realizing i should probably introduce myself.
it's so refreshing to read ppl's thoughts on these topics, which run deeply personal, and i've never been able to express myself freely, so thanks for such a great forum.. i was born and raised a dub, by my "spiritually single" mother (dad was an unbeliever..still is) me and my 3 other siblings all fell away before getting baptised, other than my older sis, who was df'd at 16. unfortunatley in my early 20's a sister "took an interest in me and we had a bible study for 2 years before getting baptized at 24.
(what a regret) since then i floundered, flopped, got df'd a year later for dum, dum, dum..."fornication and then reinstated 9 months later.
Welcome.
Isaac
first of all, if anyone is offended by the photos, then i will ask this topic to be removed.
i am posting the photos because i get sad sometimes about people being forgotten who tried so hard, even though they were wrong.
the cemetery is pretty easy to find, if you have any interest in finding it.
I remember being taken to see Knorr's grave with its tiny stone. Even then I thought it was a sorry way to show respect for his life's work
Excellent point. Of course in dubland, one is not supposed to glorify the individual. All glory must go to Jehovah. Don't eulogize the dead they say. It's sad because wouldn't glorifying the person also give glory to their Creator?
Isaac
first of all, if anyone is offended by the photos, then i will ask this topic to be removed.
i am posting the photos because i get sad sometimes about people being forgotten who tried so hard, even though they were wrong.
the cemetery is pretty easy to find, if you have any interest in finding it.
For all the visits I've paid to the Farm, I've never been to the "Launching Pad". I'm kind of amazed at Max and Sam Friend, Knorr, Swingle and Co. Amazing that they had no family to care for their remains. Or maybe they just felt that WT was their life, better to be interred there as well. Anyway, it's kind of sad, particularly Maxwell Friend. I liked him.
Isaac
i have been reading this site for a while now but have never posted.
i am an ex-pioneer, who left the organization 15 years ago.
i served as a need-greater in a foreign country and when i came back i walked away.
Dying to live. Now that's a fitting description of JW's. Welcome RaraAvis.
Isaac
today at the meeting we were told by the co, that we got a gift three months ago!
the gift we got is the one more free evening weekly, because of the new meeting arrangement.
this gift was given to us by jehovah through faithfull an discreet slave.
They were told that gas prices were too high and the loving thing was to eliminate a meeting and stay home with the family
at the same time pushing them out in service and waste money on gas.
Good point.
Isaac
today at the meeting we were told by the co, that we got a gift three months ago!
the gift we got is the one more free evening weekly, because of the new meeting arrangement.
this gift was given to us by jehovah through faithfull an discreet slave.
alanv, that would always bother me too. They always have to out some divine intervention in the mix. Can't just be people trying to get a job done. And why do they want to work JW's so darned hard? Wasn't Jesus' load supposed to be kindly, light and refreshing? I mean they'd get such better response if they just said "Hey, we are giving you this evening to take care of your family as you see fit. Catch up on time with your spouse or kids, get the kids' HW done, relax, whatever you need". That would be true mercy. And dubs would love their leadership more for it.
Isaac
greetings all:.
i just want to say howdy and thank you .
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Welcome Cadellin. Well it seems you can post. I'm not sure on the avatar in the new JWN. I wanted to change mine the other day and couldn't see how. I'm sure others will chime in. Anyway glad you're here.
Isaac
over the past three years i have dropped a few points about why i am no longer attending meetings .
nothing in depth .. i did stress alot of it was due to never feeling good enough , the emotional pressure to follow organizational rules over my own conscience and my personal objection of how education is discouraged .
i also have shared with my kids their whole life that when i was raised ,armegeddon fears were rammed down my throat ,something i refused to do to them .. i have worried excessivly how my older two sons would respond to me once they realized i am never going back .. well my son came home for a visit to go out and celebrate my birthday this weekend !
Wow, that must be a great feeling. Let's hope his research continues.
Isaac