Posts by ThomasCovenant

growing up jw, the elders in my congo never wasted an opportunity to remind the youth in my congo that we should always endeavor to do what is correct in gods eyes, not what the world considers to be popular.

this would cover just about every subject (clothing, music, sports, entertainment, etc.)..

however, when it comes to the one thing that should probably matter the most to all jay dubs (correctly pronouncing gods name), popularity takes precedence over correctness.

ThomasCovenant

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your welcome

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JWs pronounce the popular version of Gods name

by Alfred in

growing up jw, the elders in my congo never wasted an opportunity to remind the youth in my congo that we should always endeavor to do what is correct in gods eyes, not what the world considers to be popular.

this would cover just about every subject (clothing, music, sports, entertainment, etc.)..

however, when it comes to the one thing that should probably matter the most to all jay dubs (correctly pronouncing gods name), popularity takes precedence over correctness.

ThomasCovenant

Watchtower 15th September 1990 page 8 says

Jesus used God's name, Jehovah, in his ministry and demonstrated a correct pronunciation of it, but he did more than that to make God's name manifest to his apostles

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JWs pronounce the popular version of Gods name

by Alfred in

growing up jw, the elders in my congo never wasted an opportunity to remind the youth in my congo that we should always endeavor to do what is correct in gods eyes, not what the world considers to be popular.

this would cover just about every subject (clothing, music, sports, entertainment, etc.)..

however, when it comes to the one thing that should probably matter the most to all jay dubs (correctly pronouncing gods name), popularity takes precedence over correctness.

ThomasCovenant

Watchtower 1st June 1970 page 343-344 says

However, although the English word "Jehovah" is rated as a "monstrosity," it does contain the four basic consonants of the Hebrew tetragrammaton.

These consonants were combined with the vowels of the Hebrew word Adonay (Lord) to produce the name Jehovah

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JWs pronounce the popular version of Gods name

by Alfred in

growing up jw, the elders in my congo never wasted an opportunity to remind the youth in my congo that we should always endeavor to do what is correct in gods eyes, not what the world considers to be popular.

this would cover just about every subject (clothing, music, sports, entertainment, etc.)..

however, when it comes to the one thing that should probably matter the most to all jay dubs (correctly pronouncing gods name), popularity takes precedence over correctness.

ThomasCovenant

Dontplaceliterature asked

Do you have a scholarly reference to prove that Jehovah is a combination of YHWH and Adonai?

This is a reference, don't know about scholarly, from the

Watchtower 1st August 1960 page 455.

Hebrew, like other Semitic languages, has no vowel letters, but even in early times vowel signs were used.

These vowels, according to Adams, "are indicated by ‘points' or little symbols-usually dots, resembling small periods. So when scholars of the early Modern Age began translating the Bible into English they devised what were sometimes wrong interpretations of the vowels."

The name-form Jehovah came to be when early translators took the vowels of Adonay′ and inserted them between the consonants JHVH, and then changed the original "a" to "e" to aid in pronunciation of the name.

Recent discoveries show this form of the name as early as A.D. 1270 in Raymond Martini's Pugio Fidei. So the name-form Jehovah is one of long usage.

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The JW funeral talk outline - poor taste or REALLY poor taste?

by Mr. Falcon in

so i attended a funeral for a jw who passed away (non-"annointed) and i would have to state that although i have heard the standard funeral talk outline for dozens of funerals i've attended, i never really took the time to listen.

and my god, i was cringing.

the outline is essentially broken down like this:.

ThomasCovenant

Hope it is ok to copy and paste this from docbob's site.

Funeral talk outline

http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=70

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The Great Tribulation May Have Started

by headisspinning in

my ex husband who is a jw just sent me this:.

"the world is on the precipice of a major multifaceted crisis.

the great tribulation may have just started.. .

ThomasCovenant

I think I remember the same thing being said back in Sept 01. Funny that.

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Local JW's a little slack in their preaching efforts?

by cognizant dissident in

so, i'm sitting at my desk one morning, about a week ago.

the desk is right beside my sliding glass door in my new ground floor suite.

the drapes are wide open and i'm sitting in full view of anyone coming up the driveway.

ThomasCovenant

Mission = Count Time Knocking Doors

Object = Get in 4 actual hours. Then multiply it by a time, times and half a time to get 10 hours.

Report.

Hazards along the way; people.

Scenario 1, A door. Approach it. 50/50 there is someone in to talk to.

Feel lucky? Knock it.

Feel unlucky? Knock gently or not at all.

Scenario 2, A real person in full view who I will most definitely have to speak to.

Feel lucky? Ignore them.

Feel unlucky? Ignore them.

Two reasons

1) Don't believe what they are doing.

2) They do believe it but don't care about you.

It is such a shame, the time wasted on door knocking.

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A question, most probably for Christians, regarding what difference Jesus' existence has made.

by ThomasCovenant in

i was wondering what actually has changed for the human race since jesus was born, lived and died on earth specifically with regard to those who were living prior to his earthly existence as opposed to after.

would it have made any difference if he had arrived in 3975 bc, or even if he hadn't yet arrived and was due to be born say in 2150 ad?.

i get the impression that christians are very grateful that jesus came and 'died for our sins' but what difference does it make if he wasn't even due yet?

ThomasCovenant

Thanks for the replies. I'm still a little confused though.

According to Christian belief, all mankind has benefitted equally since Jesus' death.

I assume that means all, as in, those who were dead before he came as well as all the people yet to be born.

I hope I'm making myself clear here.

If, therefore, those who were dead already have equally benefitted, then it doesn't seem to make any difference if he died in 33 AD or 3000 AD.

If people who were born after his death have enjoyed a better life because of his death then would it not have been better for him to have died in 4000 BC?

So far man has lived for (according to JW theology) just over 6000 years. 4000 were pre Christ and 2000 post. Plus whatever is to come in the future.

Just my way of looking at things. I assume I'm missing something.