Posts by ThomasCovenant

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31 Years A Watchtower Slave

by truthseeker in

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my other half has accepted this.. after many years of fading i have stopped going altogether.

i still have friends and family in so i'm happy to remain inactive.. .

i was never a very good watchtower slave to begin with.. i was raised in the truth but i never really put my heart and soul into the religion.

ThomasCovenant

Truthseeker said

''I don't think I'll ever completely forget my life as a JW - it defined me and my outlook on life even though my outlook has changed'' .

I agree.

Wish you all the best.

Thomas Covenant

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A very inspiring 10 minute talk by the late Randy Pausch.

by ThomasCovenant in

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never heard of him before but just spotted this on cnn.

i believe this is a shortened version of his 'last lecture' at carnegie mellon.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f87yvldwzus.

thomas covenant.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

Never heard of him before but just spotted this on CNN. I believe this is a shortened version of his 'Last Lecture' at Carnegie Mellon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F87yvlDWzUs

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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Perhaps this guy believed he'd be resurrected in 3 days.

by ThomasCovenant in

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what greater love has anyone that he would give his life for someone else especially when he knows he'll get resurrected in 3 days as 2nd in command of the universe.. .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7521221.stm.

thomas covenant.

ThomasCovenant

Hi,

What greater love has anyone that he would give his life for someone else especially when he knows he'll get resurrected in 3 days as 2nd in command of the universe.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7521221.stm

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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If you don't hear about "the Kingdom" you won't be destroyed so why preach?

by Witness 007 in

witnesses believe in these last days, if you never spoke to a witness or heard about the kingdom, jehovah will not destroy you...you will have a second chance in the new system to study.

so why bother preaching at all....there will be time in "paradise.

" is this correct?

ThomasCovenant

Watchtower 1952 1st June pages 341-350 Fixing Destinies in this Judgement Period

''WHY

WEWITNESS NOW

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If ignorance during this present judgment period is an excuse and is going to mean a resurrection for ignorant ones in the millennial reign, would it not be advantageous to let all remain ignorant now? If all those not personally preached to now and who are slain by Jehovah at Armageddon are going to return in the resurrection of mankind, why preach now at all? Even those who oppose the view that all Armageddon’s slain are forever dead will admit that those hearing but not accepting the witness now will perish eternally at Armageddon. Just for the sake of reasoning together, adopt their view for a moment. We preach to one thousand persons now, and perhaps one accepts the truth, while all the others reject it and die forever at Armageddon. But if we refrained from preaching to this one thousand, all would die at Armageddon but all would return in a resurrection, not having heard the message. Surely when they returned in that new world far advanced toward perfect paradise, with no corrupting humans around and demonic influence gone, so our opposers would incline to think and say, many more than one of that thousand would conform to new world requirements. Maybe only one would refuse. So why preach now and save one out of a thousand?

Why not be silent now and save 999 out of a thousand?

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That, of course, would be folly. It would mean eternal destruction for the witness who remained silent. It means the stones would cry out the warning, if the watchman class failed to do so.''

The Society seem to put up a very strong case for doing exactly what you say; don't go preaching and you'll save maybe 999 out of a 1000 as opposed to 1 in a 1000.

The best they seem to come up with is that that would be

FOLLY

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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Jesus mentioned it so it MUST be true... ?

by LtCmd.Lore in

something i don't get... when discussing the accuracy of the flood myth, and the story of jonah, bible believers, dubs for example, will claim that it must be true because jesus mentioned it.. here's what i don't get: isn't it possible that jesus was simply refferencing a fictional event that everyone around him would be familiar with?.

i do it all the time!

with my family i will make reference to events in star trek, mash, or whatever as if they actually occurred.. like: "hey i just met someone at work, he was just like frank burns.".

ThomasCovenant

Exactly my thoughts too.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/132772/1.ashx

Thomas Covenant

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Thou Knowest O Lord

by ThomasCovenant in

i remember this from years ago and just found it, from an early secret policeman's ball.

it sums up prayer for me.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctnwehon51.

thomas covenant.

ThomasCovenant

And yet I can view it at youtube. It's Eleanor Bron.

Thanks for trying

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Thou Knowest O Lord

by ThomasCovenant in

i remember this from years ago and just found it, from an early secret policeman's ball.

it sums up prayer for me.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctnwehon51.

thomas covenant.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

I remember this from years ago and just found it, from an early Secret Policeman's Ball. It sums up prayer for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcTNWehOn51

Thomas Covenant

Can't seem to get link to work sorry.

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Cruise Ship Disaster

by Rapunzel in

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apparently, a cruise ship got caught in a typhoon that hit the r.o.p.

[republic of the philippines].the estimated death toll is approximately 700, or about half the number who perished on the titanic.

i fear that the death toll in the latest cruise-ship disaster could actually be higher than 700. my fear comes from the fact that 700 were officially registered as being on board.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

Even though a lot more people may have died in the accident compared to a jumbo jet crash

it's

a) not as dramatic

b) didn't take place in the West.

Therefore we are not too bothered.

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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Best Of JWD. JanG. AlanF. larc. JanH. Maximus. Farkel. Where?

by ThomasCovenant in

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i've been going through some of the 'best of' section, compiled, i believe, by lady lee.

firstly thanks lady lee for sorting them.

they are so interesting to read and could do with highlighting more on the site i feel.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

I've been going through some of the 'Best Of' section, compiled, I believe, by Lady Lee. Firstly thanks Lady Lee for sorting them. They are so interesting to read and could do with highlighting more on the site I feel. Although I've been visiting this site on and off for several years I am still a 'babe' learning and reading what is in this section. Highly recommended.

Anyway I can't help but notice that apart from Farkel (some of the funniest stuff I've read here) that they don't seem to post anymore. I do recall some very regrettable fallout with AlanF but what about the others.

Any comments/news?

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

PS. I know there are others on the 'Best of ' . No offence for not mentioning names.

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Is there any Religion WITHOUT a belief in an afterlife / reward?

by ThomasCovenant in

it's been interesting to read the various discussions that go on here particularly between those who 'believe' in a 'god' and those who don't.

in my opinion when all is said and done it seems to come down simply to.

versus .

ThomasCovenant

Hi

It's been interesting to read the various discussions that go on here particularly between those who 'believe' in a 'god' and those who don't.

In my opinion when all is said and done it seems to come down simply to

'I believe, because I want to believe'

versus

'I don't believe, because in my opinion there is not enough evidence to cause me to have no logical choice but to believe'. (That's me )

With regard the first choice it would appear to me that all 'believers' have one thing in common. A belief in a reward for themselves in the future.

Does anyone know of any religion that doesn't believe in this?

I have come to a position where I am content to accept that when I die I'm gone for good.

Yes, it would be great to think that there was something 'better' after and if I really wanted that I would start thinking about being a 'believer' . Any religion as they all seem to offer the same.

Thanks

Thomas Covenant