Apart from things that lots of other people predicted, like technological advances, no
Certainly, none of the prophecies that are unique to them have come true, and nor do they look like doing so.
garybuss said not one single thing they told him about in his younger years (since the 50's) came true.
it made me think....does anyone know of anything they said that was/is right?????
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Apart from things that lots of other people predicted, like technological advances, no
Certainly, none of the prophecies that are unique to them have come true, and nor do they look like doing so.
someone on another site was asking "what if they are right?
" which made me think about why i know that they are not and i wondered what was your epiphany or road to damascus moment or moments that just made you realise - hey i've been led up the garden path here!.
here was my response but i really think a list of reasons on one thread for easy reference for newbies would be good.
Hi Crumpet,
There were a few snall things that made me begin to wonder about the wts, but the big thing that finally convinced me that I wasn't in the true religion was when I read Crisis of Conscience while on holiday in 1999. When I came back, I immediately resigned from my position in the comg, never went in the ministry again, and a short time later stopped attending meetings altogether. I haven't set foot in a kh since November 1999, and never will do again.
I am an atheist now, I was one before I became a jw, and wish I'd stayed that way instead of allowing myself to be conned by those lying, manipulative b**tards into wasting 8 years of my life in their cult.
dedpoet
i would like to get some honest answers about your position on blood transfusion.
as we get older, sooner or later we wind up in the hospital and the question they always ask is"...in the event.. would you accept blood?
" faced with that question, i answered no.
Yes I would. There is no reason not to if I needed it to save my life.
taken about 2 hours ago when we ventured 1/2 mi.
to the post office.
Hi Gregor,
You can post a pic through files, on the left of your screen under the inbox. Just upload the pic to your filestore, and attach it to your post by pressing the paperclip just above the font box on the reply screen, and ticking the box next to the pic you want to post in your filestore. I hope that helps.
I too must admit that I thought leaving the screen white was a joke on your part.
in short, my mom's a die hard jw.
my brother was never baptised and, although he doesn't believe or go to the kh anymore, my mom still has a relationship with him.
thus he decided to email the following to our mom and her reply is below.. what i want to know is,...what would be an excellent reply for my brother to use in response to her comment?
Hi Jeremiah,
Your mum's reply seems to be based on the letter the wts sent out to congregations when the news of their UN affiliation broke. A little research into the UN would show it to be the obvious lie it really is, but whether you can get your mum to do that is another matter. Check out this site
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/ngo-partnership.html
and look at NGO responsibilities, which kind of implies lending some support to the principles of the UN. Maybe if you sent this link to your mum, it would have some effect, if she is prepared to look at it objectively, without listening to the wts spin on the affair.
good luck!
Trev
let me preface this by saying how much i enjoy learning.
i read constantly.
but as for "personal study", i did my best... i forced myself, but could never get into it.
I enjoyed personal bible reading, I read the bible through every 9 or 10 months, though I used to miss 1Chronicles ch 1 - 9, kind of repetitive, but I can't say I enjoyed studying the wts literature that much, certainly not after my first couple of years in the org anyway. That was repeptitive as well, it said virually the same thing over and over again, but just slightly repackaged to make it appear differrent.
) day ordeals.
the pasadena rose bowl is in a canyon and this was dead summer, temps.
over 100,000 in attendance.
7 days? You guys have my admiration, the longest dc I ever attended was 4 days, and most of the 8 I went to lasted 3.
I wouldn't say I'm thankful for ever being a jw, but I'm certainly thankful I missed out on the 7 or 8 day affairs, 3 was more than long enough for me.
happy 60th birthday norm!.
you've helped so many escape from watchtower's clutches over the years, norm.
claire and i are proud to have you as a much loved friend!.
Happy birthday Norm, have a good one.
"a major turning point took place at work where i met some jehovah's witnesses, and convinced myself that they were wrong, started to get seriously into theology and so forth.
i felt that the church of england was too feeble, and moved on via a roundabout route into a highly structured, independent charismatic church, where i remained for seven lonely and depressing years.
i eventually left the church in disgust at a huge and ugly falling out among the leaders, but i still believed, and went as a visitor to a number of churches for the next ten years or so.".
Your thread title sums up what I felt about the watchtower in 1999 when I left.
Nowadays I've dropped the morass of confusion idea, I see them as outright liars.
i've been posting here for quite a long time, so long in fact that it just doesn't feel right that my wife isn't a part of it.
earlier today i created an account for her with the username heron, she'll know why.
i'm not sure if my wife will ever post here but i would feel much more comfortable knowing she is aware that i do.. this is the one post i am going to ask her to read.. so, i'd really appreciate it if you could say hello to my lovely wife.
Hello Heron, and welcome to the board
It's great to see you here.
Trev