Posts by GoingGoingGone

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settle this argument...have JW's ever said they prophicied about anything?

by oompa in

especially big stuff like the end of mankind in 1914, and christians then being raptured.

1925 men of old to return to earth.

did we ever say it was a prophecy?

Can you be grateful for the lives of your kids but not grateful to god

by jambon1 in

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this may or may not make sense.. i am an atheist.

i have issues with there not being a creator because of the beuty of life and especially my children.

but, for me, their are just to many negative things about 'creation' to be 100% about this belief.

I'm not quite an athiest, I believe that there may be a god out there, but that he's not too concerned with us personally. Either that, or else he's not "loving" in the same sense as human beings understand "love". I guess I'm not really ready to deal with the second possibility, so I believe that if there is a god, he doesn't concern himself with our personal lives.

If you are going to be grateful to God for the lives of your children, who do you blame when things go wrong? When a parent loses a child, what then? You're not allowed to be angry with God, he's supposed to be able to give and take away as he pleases. But if he's loving, then how could he allow a child to suffer and die? How can he watch the agony that the parents go through, having loved another human being so much and then having them torn away?

I am soooo grateful for my children. They are the loves of my life. I used to feel like I had to be grateful to someone, but now I am beginning to believe that it's ok to just accept the joy they bring me, and use the happiness they bring me to bring joy to someone else, too.

Hope that made sense.

GGG

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Scan of a Field Service Time Slip...

by deaconbluez in

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can anybody help me find one?

GoingGoingGone

Maybe we should start using them again for the time we spend on ApostaSites...?

Haha! I'd be a Pioneer!

GGG

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Very rare!-1909 M.L. McPhail-The Covenants-PDF!-(BM-S-R)

by Atlantis in

very rare!-1909 m. l. mcphail-the covenants-their mediators and the sin-offerings!

s=searchable-(due to the age of this book the searchable feature may not function for every word.

it does work however, and sometimes typing in a "phrase" might help.

GoingGoingGone

Thank you again, Atlantis!

Downloading now!

GGG

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FOR DUMMIES: Jehovah Has ALWAYS Used an Organization. Not!!

by Open mind in

how many times have you heard this from a jw?:.

"jehovah has always worked through an organization!

now i've heard plenty of rebuttals of this on jwd, but last night i thought of another way to look at it.

GoingGoingGone

Let's all don our JW thinking caps (aka, brown paper bags)

Aw, and here I'd already run to get a napkin and everything! Oh I forgot, those are for Head Coverings (tm), not thinking caps! Duh!

GGG

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SURVEY: Who Believes In "God"?

by minimus in

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and by that i mean the supreme being or jehovah or jesus or buddah or whatever you might consider to be "god".

GoingGoingGone

Put me down as "Undecided"

GGG

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Catholics

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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so can someone please enlighten me why when people come out with their catholicism others find it necessary to remind them of their pope worshipping, mary praying traditions (sic)?.

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GoingGoingGone

I was born to Roman Catholic parents and baptized Catholic, and made my first communion when I was about 6. Shortly after that, my mother became a JW and I was immersed in JWism until I left about 3 years ago.

When I left, it was because of the false teachings of the WT. I desperately wanted to find out what God wanted from me, and I returned to the Catholic church for a time. I attended mass, communion, even went to confession. I loved the Mass, it was beautiful and I really felt at home there.

But as I looked into the Catholic teachings more deeply, there were many things that really bothered me. While no one is judged (outwardly) in the Church, the judgement is there all the same. The list of mortal sins is long (sins which one will go to hell if no absolution is received before one dies). For example, it's a mortal sin to miss Sunday Mass for no good reason, or to use any contreception when having sex. Anyone not deemed a saint upon death will go to Purgatory, where they will suffer torment until the sin is tormented out of them. Only then can they enter heaven, and God's presence.

The Catholic church uses tradition as well as the Bible to arrive at their teachings. In other words, something need not be in the Bible to be taught as truth by the Catholics. They believe that they have, as a church, decended directly from the apostles, and thus their traditions count.

I could go on, but it's not my intention to bash the Catholics. Quite honestly, I enjoy their form of worship. I just can't deal with never feeling like I'm good enough, like I should be constantly striving for sainthood to be good enough for God. Just thinking about it makes me feel sick to the very core of my being.

GGG

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MY DAD MIGHT DIE DUE TO THE 'NO BLOOD' DOCTRINE

by Mary in

i don't have much time to post as i'm headed back to the hospital, but my father collapsed this morning and had to be rushed to the hospital.

in a nutshell: he needs a blood transfusion as his hemoglobin is dropping (bleeding internally), but thanks to this fucking cult, that's not an option...........he'll accept the fractions but those bastards from the blood liaison committee have already shown up to ensure he doesn't cave............... for those of you who still believe, i'm asking you to say a prayer for my dad........and if anyone from crooklyn is reading this: you better hope my father doesn't die due to your fucked up rules, .

GoingGoingGone

Good for you, Mary, for being there for your Dad!

I hope you're sleeping well tonight, you deserve it!

Hugs,

GGG

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MY DAD MIGHT DIE DUE TO THE 'NO BLOOD' DOCTRINE

by Mary in

i don't have much time to post as i'm headed back to the hospital, but my father collapsed this morning and had to be rushed to the hospital.

in a nutshell: he needs a blood transfusion as his hemoglobin is dropping (bleeding internally), but thanks to this fucking cult, that's not an option...........he'll accept the fractions but those bastards from the blood liaison committee have already shown up to ensure he doesn't cave............... for those of you who still believe, i'm asking you to say a prayer for my dad........and if anyone from crooklyn is reading this: you better hope my father doesn't die due to your fucked up rules, .

GoingGoingGone

I'm so sorry about your dad, Mary. Sending strength and positive thoughts your way.

GGG

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Faders-do you still enjoy old JW friends? Nothing in common?

by oompa in

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as a pretty new fader with no friendships other than jw's, i spend virtually all time alone, or with my jw wife.

i have little in common now with her or old friends.

at least the old friends and i liked biking (both kinds), golf, hiking, the beach, camping, tennis, boating, fishing, football (tv).

GoingGoingGone

As a JW, I had really good friends. The kind you could sit around and talk about anything with, who dropped by all the time and called for no particular reason. When I started to fade, I did have health issues and used them as an excuse for my staying away from meetings. My friends came by and offered to clean my house, or do anything they could to help. Then, as they realized it wasn't the health problems that were really keeping me away, the visits became more along the lines of 'what can I do to help you get back to meetings?'

Now, they pretty much ignore me. My friends were from several congregations in this area, some of them foreign language ones, and for a long time it seemed that the ones outside my home cong. weren't aware of my fade. Well, I've noticed a change lately so I think the rumor mill has done it's job.

I went to lunch with one of my best (former) friends not too long ago, and she asked if I thought I'd ever come back to the KH... she was crying, said she never found anyone she connected with like she connected with me, I was the best friend she'd ever had and she missed me terribly. I reminded her that I was still here, living right down the street, and I'd love to get together with her more often. She agreed, but I haven't heard from her since.

If I were to invite someone over, I still think they'd come, and I still think we'd have a good time. But knowing what they really think of me keeps me from doing it. I went through a period of time where I grieved over my lost friends, I think that I still am grieving in a way, I'm at the "anger" stage. I'm mad that they profess to care and that I have shared so much of my life with them and that they now can ignore me. I'm not sure what comes next in my grieving process, but I hope it's simply peace.

GGG