how do you feel about blood now?
the thought of taking a blood transfusion still gives me the creeps... but now i know that i'd take one if my life was on the line.
i'm thinking about giving blood too.
Yes to both, especially if my children needed it, and we are the same blood type, who better than me? I would try to get the substitutes for myself first, if possible, only because of the risks involved, if not maybe find a family member of freind who I know didn't do questionable things, to share their blood with me, I would of course do the same for them.
IC
this only makes sense if you're familiar with the red pill/blue pill decision faced in the movie "the matrix".
if you aren't familiar with it, and don't mind finding out without watching the movie, you can read about it here: http://www.arrod.co.uk/essays/matrix.php.
(i'd just tell you, but i don't want to spoil it for you if you'd rather see the movie first.).
AA that was great, hahahahahahaha, I love that song, Dan your was great too, you guys are talented!
IC
i dont think i will ever understand it, i mean why would someone want to be so much of a hypocrit(doesnt apply to everyone) ?.
it seems to me that most jw's are into themselves and stupid relationships.
if someone is talking its about one of those two things.
JW's are a herd of stupid cows walking down a path. The path encircles a vast mountain, and every year the cows complete another circle around it. They foolishly tell themselves that they are walking down a narrow path leading to eternal salvation. ;However, in the end, they are just a ;herd of foolish cattle walking in circles that lead them right back ;to where they started. There is no JW salvation, only a never ending path to walk ;and other foolish cows to try and impress.
That is they JW lifestyle.
Jeepbrube, I couldn't have said it better!
IC
something tipped you off; a guy with a hat made of dead fish, your mom complimenting your clothing choice, wording on billboards change each time you look at them -- something that you know wouldn't happen in real life.. sometimes in dreams you just buy it, like it's perfectly normal to wear a fish hat.
but some lucky times you catch it, and then all bets are off!
fly, eat like a pig, kick puppies -- the sky's the limit!.
Yes, and it's totally Cool! it started when I was about 9, I would picture a tv screen in my mind with those old knobs they had, I would then change the channel and different themes would show on screen then I'd simply pick which one I wanted to be in and jump in, it was AWSOME! I was able to this for a long time, although I no longer used the tv screen, I would just think about what I wanted to dream, close my eyes and there I was, other times in the dream I become aware and pretty much do anything I want, I must say the most amazing ones have been when I can fly, it's so real.
It's been awhile since I've done it, hopefully one of these days I can do so again.
IC
Oh no, here we go again, my mom won't shut up about this one for months, it was bad enough hearing about obedience to the damn GB last summer, now they might get these poor brainwashed fools to start selling their stuff, and not getting necessary dental work done, basically putting off life for this LOAD OF CRAPOLA!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, there I feel better now
IC (of the I'm not going to the DC next summer class)
if a really big scandal happened in the wts and the r&f realised that the organisation is the big con that it is, how do you think they would react?
empty kingdom halls?
divided families re united?
There are sadly many people in this bOrganization that have given up all ties to the world ie. relatives, freinds, jobs, relationships etc. not to mention many years of servitude, if something BIG happened and they realized that all this is BUNK, I think quite a few of them would commit suicide, others I think would be so enraged that like someone already said, Kingdom Halls would start going up in flames, mass dumping or burning of the garbage literature, and Bethel well lets say it might end up like good old Babylon a pile of rubble. But even at that point I agree that there would be some idiots that would think that Satan and his system is attacking in fullfilment of a prophecy, and probably a small group would keep going.
But I hope I live to see that day .
IC
the watchtower april 15, 1992, p. 31, par.
1, 5, 6; p. 13, par.
the watchtower april 15, 1992, p. 15, par.
Barbara, thanks for this, that was a Great Read! Once again this proves it's all smoke and mirrors in Watchtower land.
IC
Return visits, to me were like carrying this freakin load on your back, you placed the dumb mags with people, then you had to write their name etc. down, and you were supposed to visit them to pursue a possible bible study with them, if you didn't you were told that if that person missed out on eternal life (becoming a JW) because you didn't return, their blood was on your hands and Jehovah will hold you accountable in the end, talk about mental torture.
I remember every time they brought this up at meetings (the reminders), my consience would be really bothering me, because I hated to go back, for some reason I didn't want to start studies with people, I always thought "what if I do something that makes them not want to become a JW?" like maybe not show up at one of the bible studies, or say something that would turn them off, then I would really fail Jehovah. Yes you can laugh, that's how brainwashed I was then.
IC (of the I can see clearly now class)
i've finally had the opportunity to read the october 1, 2005 watchtower regarding education.
even though this board had already prepared me for what i was going to be seeing, it still surprised me.
i cannot believe that they are still demonizing post secondary education.
This is one of the things that really makes my blood boil. There's another topic on a bethel sister that got some award, and is going to Columbia U in NY, who is pursuing a Law degree, paid for by WTS the donations sent to expand the worlwide work brainwashing, what hypocrisy, but they are saying JW children shouldn't get a higher education, what bull!
You know this sounds like what happened when christianity started and throughout it's history, really, here was a movement that kept people ignorant, and poor, with the message of don't pursue material wealth, don't listen to philosophy, obey the authorities, turn the other cheek, bla bla bla bla, what a load of CRAP! keep the masses stupid, while the leaders empower and educate themselves.
Thankfully, in my family we are now aware of this charade, and are all educating and empowering ourselves, I want to go to college for the first time (it's never too late) and study history, hopefully get to give lectures to students on how that collection of stories and myths called the bible was put together. My children will have the opportunity to get a college education, which my husband and I never did, because of this religion.
IC
hello everyone, i know that many here like me have read ray's book crisis of consience, i was very impressed with it, it helped open my eyes to the hypocrisy and double standards of the wts, and ray gave me the impresion of being a very loving and kind man, not the demonized apostate we were all lead to believe.
but, i noticed something that wasn't quite correct when i was reading the part that spoke of then brother rene vazquez, he makes it seem like all rene did was have private conversations with ray and nothing else, this is not true, i for a fact know that this was not all that happened.
in a ms meeting on tuesday back in 1980, rene was conducting a part and he went up to the stage with only his bible, he started saying that all we needed was the bible, that we would no longer be using other publications by the wts .
Yes Nate , that was my reaction then, now I understand that they probably saw the printing and placing of all those books as unnecessary for a true christian, like how many books did Christ place?
I wonder if they remained christians or if they figured it out eventually.
IC
