Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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Woohoo, just been DF'ed !!!

by Genesis in

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yesterday i was annonced as the kingdom hall : genesis is no more a jehovah witness !

im so glad i made it, but in the same time i have remorses, but thats a phenomenon called homeostasis, the mind try to take things to normal...

so i have so much things to plan,do think !

ICBehindtheCurtain

Congratulations to you , someday when I've pulled out many more of my family and freinds from the cult, I just might join you!!

IC

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5 minute guide to knowing if Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth

by jwfacts in

i have just posted a new article at http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/5min.htm that is copied below.

can you please check it and make any suggestions?

a few bits may not make total sense as they are links to other pages in the website.

JWfacts that was GREAT!!! I was looking for precisely something like what you put together, there are some freinds I want to send info to anonymously but didn't want it to scare them off, this is perfect.

Keep up the good work!

IC

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FORGET MY PARANOIA! I'M IN THE SHOW!!!!!!

by stillAwitness in

well, i been signed to a modeling agency since april of 05. besides your boring "stand here and look pretty" kind of jobs i still have wasn't finding any real work.

but saturday i went to a go-see for some local designer who was looking for models to be in her next runway show.

of course, i have absolutely no expierence in doing runway and i swear i have two left feet

ICBehindtheCurtain

YOU GO GIRL!!!, when I was in my late teens, I was approached by a talent scout and had the opportunity of becoming a petite model, but of course I thought about it and said no (damn) because I was a JW and there were so many temptations, of course these were my moms words. Well I wish now I would have taken advantage of that opportunity. So I'm glad you are going for it, enjoy it, I wish you much success!!!

IC

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How do you think the world will end?

by free2beme in

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i was watching this national geographic program called "the end" the other day.

it showed different events that could end mankind and possibly the planet.

in each one, there is true in possibilities and they never showed an example of god destroying the world.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I'm with Tetrapod it might happen it might not, either way I probably won't be here by then neither will my kids, so frankly I don't care.

Besides, i no longer waste my precious time here worrying about things that will probably never happen, I'lle cross that bridge when and if it ever comes.

Spring Gardening here I come!

IC

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Letting go of the black and white thinking...

by tall penguin in

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i think that this is the most difficult lesson in leaving the jw world.

the black and white thinking created such a neat little world where everything was so easily explained and categorized, provided you didn't mind living in a bubble.

i think the one area of black and white thinking that caused me the most difficulty and cognitive dissonance was the question of jehovah's will vs. satan's temptations.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I simply wasted years of my life walking around spouting off utter nonsense with the utter conviction I was specially blessed totally right.

Terry, that is so true, I've wasted 28 years of my life on this nonsense, I also recall feeling so special because I thought all those poor ignorant people lived their lives only worrying about their houses (when we would be on svc in the ritzy part of town and they slammed the door on us), their cars and such, I felt superior because I knew the end was coming and they would realize what a mistake they had made, wow what realization this has been, to realize that these are generally good honest people just doing the best they can and enjoying their lives which is what we are now doing, no longer wasting precious Saturday mornings on disturbing people's lives, but instead sleeping late, playing with my kids, gardening there are so many worthwhile activities to enjoy now.

IC

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Letting go of the black and white thinking...

by tall penguin in

jw
friends

i think that this is the most difficult lesson in leaving the jw world.

the black and white thinking created such a neat little world where everything was so easily explained and categorized, provided you didn't mind living in a bubble.

i think the one area of black and white thinking that caused me the most difficulty and cognitive dissonance was the question of jehovah's will vs. satan's temptations.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Terry, glad to see you around these parts again, I agree with your statements. Tall Penguin- you are so right - that black and white thinking takes away all accountability for ones actions making it Satans fault for stumbling us or tempting us instead of realizing it's just bad decisions and careless actions that result in negative outcomes or just being human, then when positive things happen in our lives we would think "Oh Jehovah is blessing me" instead of feeling proud of ourselves for our achievements.

I believe this thinking leads to mental illness, this constant questioning if things are from Satan or Jehovah. My mom drives me crazy with this, if things go well and she gets something that she had been praying for, she says that Jehovah answered her prayer, and when she doesn't get it or when calamity strikes she says that Satan doesn't rest, that he's always looking to stumble Jehovah's loyal ones, AAARRRGGGHHHHH, it drives be berzerk!

I'm so glad you are recovering from this craziness, I too rose above this, and today I am a very happy person, and I see life for what it is, a journey that at times is wonderful and at times painful but I am free to choose without worrying that some powerful being is trying to destroy me.

IC

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Do The WTB&TS Really Believe They Have Truth?

by prophecor in

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or are they just stringing the rank and file along, getting every ounce of work out of thier constituents, long enough to pull the next rabbit out of the hat?

those at the top, don't they see where they've made mistakes?

how can they continue in good conscience before the god they profess to serve?

ICBehindtheCurtain

All the cruel and ridiculous things that have come down from the Tower ie Malawi, no vaccinations, blood issue, all the failed dates, make me think that some if not all of the big wigs in Bethel know it's all Bull Sh*t, but they are hooked on the lifestyle, the Power. If they admitted the truth about things, they would be out on the street from all the law suits that would spring up. Sometimes I have thought that these men must not even believe in God at all, the way they ruin peoples lives and just keep going as if they had done nothing at all.

I hope I live to see the day when justice is done!

IC

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ok why havent we got the truth?

by PMJ in

ok as you have gathered im a wittness and i for one beleave we have the truth.not saying every thing is or has all ways been right because we live in a imperfect world with imperfect people.but as far as jehovah being god and jesus being his son.and the coming war of arrmegeddon.i would say we have the truth.i no about all the mistakes and misunderstandings we have had in the past.but i feel that is past and we have moved on.and abandoned i no what you all say about the year 607 being wrong but that date all deapends on it desolation was 70 years or not.so im just trying to understand how some of you say you lernt you was being lied to?

ICBehindtheCurtain

PMJ, Hi there, I just wanted to let you know, that no one has the truth, because there is no truth to be had, the bible was just put together for political reasons, to subdue the population and have them be humble and obedient to whomever was in power, it was a brilliant idea, actually, although I also found out how many bible errors and contradictions there are, so the people that wrote it, messed up a bit. Jesus might have been an actual preacher similar to mohammed, but all the son of god and miracles stuff was made up. see the various myths around prior to, during and after the so called birth of the Messiah ie Mythras, Osirus, Horus etc. check it out, you might be quite surprised!

Jehovah or Yaweh was a tribal god back in very ancient times, he was a storm god that lived on a mountain, one of the son's of EL, hence the reason in the OT it says in Deutoronomy I forget the text, but it says that Israel was given to him as his inheritance, you can only be given an inheritance from your parent, ie El. Yaweh also had a consort or lover known as an Asherah hence the problem with the Israelites serving Ashtoret this was Yawehs consort, their God was Yaweh but they also had a Goddess, the Jews have hidden this very well, until know, there is alot of information on this, I suggest you look for it, if you DARE which not many JW's would be willing to do, just go to a search engine and type in "Yaweh's Asherah" and it should come up.

I know you are probably laughing at this right now, hey believe whatever you want, but if I were you, I would want to know what the truth about these things is as it will affect your life and your families in a BIG way. Also, do some research on the Sumerians, they are the earliest advanced Civilization, they were around before the Hebrews, in the 20th century thousands of cuneiform sumerian tablets have been discovered that say alot about these people, some of the things they wrote were later adopted by the Hebrews and changed around a bit, the Hebrews claimed it as their own, but these writings were originally other peoples.

I could go on, and on, but what good would it do, if you just discard everything, the truth of matters is not as pretty as the JW's have painted it, but I would rather know the truth, you see, it's very much like that movie the Matrix, we live in this world as JW's thinking we know all this inside information about the real nature of God, and that he is going to fix everyting with this perfect paradise, and that Armaggedon will destroy all the evil, but then when you really search you discover there is no earthly paradise coming only the one you make yourself here and now, and there is no future Tribulation or Armaggedon coming.

Today after doing extensive research on all these things, because I didn't take my beliefs casually, I first made sure to investigate thoroughly, I have come to a conclusion, that I believe in a Creator, I don't know why we are here, nor does it matter, I just believe that we should live the best way we can, show love to ourselves and others, do no harm, and enjoy this life! I also believe in rebirth, I no longer believe that this life is all there is, I think we go on after our physical bodies die. I am happier than I have every been in my JW life, no stress, no depression, just living my life and helping all those I can help NOW!

IC

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Where are all you disco dancers?

by IronClaw in

does anybody else out there in apostaland like the 70's music, esspecially the disco era?

i used to be a dj back in the day.

i worked at a rollerskating rink when disco was king and did private gigs as well.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I LOVE DISCO, back in the day I was a true DISCO QUEEN! Loved it, danced until my feet swelled up, then I would just remove my shoes and keep dancing, yess those were the days, until BETHEL RUINED IT! saying that Disco was evil! My parents made me dump my whole disco collection, AAAARRRGGGGHHH!!! Truly sad! But NOW I have all the Music again and still enjoy it!!!

NA NA, NA NA NA (sticks tongue out at the WTS) Ya BUNCH OF LOSERS!!!!!

IC (of the I can do whatever I want now class)

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Real 'BIG' news WTS sued biggie worker compensation

by DannyHaszard in

jehovah's loses comp case

church may be forced to pay millions

by jess wisloski.

ICBehindtheCurtain

DannyH YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!! THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!!!! This would seem to be the real reason they are laying off all those workers, they don't want to be sued by anyone slipping or hurting themselves on their premises. It could also open a big can of worms, I personally know of quite a few bethelites back in the 80's that were exposed to asbestos and other chemicals while working in bethel that got seriously and sometimes fatally ill, they were just let go, but this could potentially be the straw that broke the ~~camels~~ WTS's back!

If the Court's decision stands, they can be sued up the WAZOO, by all those poor brainwashed bethelites that gave years of their lives and health to the Borg! YESSSSSSSSS, I can only hope!

IC (of the Sue the WTS till it's bankrupt class)