Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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Guardian Article on Watchtower vs. Quotes

by sixsixsixtynine in

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this has already been mentioned on another thread, but thought i'd start a new one dedicated to the story:.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1687735,00.html.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I briefly looked at the other thread on this but hey, I think it's important enough that 2 threads on it is ok, this is GGRRREAT!!!

IC

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JWD......the First Ingredient in the Witnesses' Spiritual Food '

by gumby in

as i was sitting here this morning reading the various threads and posts, i couldn't help but think how the society monitors this board.

i also thought how this board has aided many "out" in clever types of ways that have saved many a lot of heartache by the good advise they recieve here by others who have learned the hard way.. the actions of ones who have exited of course trickles down to elders who have to deal with these tricky ass apostates who are influencing others.

the co's all hear about this and of course these reports go to the society.

ICBehindtheCurtain

GRRRRREAT!!! I've always enjoyed preparing food, especially for those that will gobble it all up!

IC

20

CO Comments

by dothemath in

the circuit overseer in a neighboring circuit has been telling audiences in his visits to the congregations the following:.

the governing body feels that the massacre in rwanda happened because satan wanted to get at the witnesses in that country.. i agree that satanic influence could have been behind it..........but do you think the thousands of casualties were caused solely to affect the small minority of witnesses there?.

i suppose it's the same logic that ww1 + ww2 happened to get at the remnant of the 144,000. any comments on this?.

ICBehindtheCurtain

What a load of CRAP! Like anybody even cares what Jw's do, the majority of the people only know that JW's are the annoying people that knock on your door on Saturday mornings, that we let our kids die because of the blood issue, and that we don't celebrate holidays, NOTHING MORE!!!!!

That CO is a totally delusional idiot!!!!!!

IC

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Now That The "Hope" Of Paradise Is Gone-----Now What???

by minimus in

jw
friends

are you aimless?

are you happier?

more confused?

ICBehindtheCurtain

I like others here, no longer believe in a coming paradise as the JW's teach. At first, when this realization came, I felt like the solid surface I had been standing on all these years was suddenly pulled away, and I felt myself falling into nothingness, with nothing to hold on to, it was quite frightening. All those years knowing for certain that if and when I die, I will awaken in this perfect paradise and that my children will be with me there together will all my resurrected loved ones, it was quite a neat and pleasing little package.

Reality however, isn't so neatly packaged! I then went on to find out what if anything is there after death, I began researching Near Death Experiences, Rebirth and Reincarnation information, and was quite enlightened, this is what I needed to know, it has given me a renewed hope that death is not the end, but I truly believe that our Soul lives on and when we die we will again be with our loved ones in another realm, what the absolute truth is, I will find out eventually, but for now this has brought me and my family peace and happiness, without having to serve some high control Borganization. Today I can honestly say, that I am much happier and have found true peace, I live in the present and believe we can live happily in this world, and we can make our own little paradise right here and help others do the same.

IC (of the Paradise can be here and now class)

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Campaign - with credit to Schne_Belly

by MidwichCuckoo in

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friends

i did post this on schne-belly's thread - but thought more may read it as a new topic.

apologies if idea has already been posted.. i think a good campaign would be for us to compose a 'standard' letter (maybe bullet points regarding certain issues, ngo - which the average jw is unaware of - child abuse, hypocricy of mexico / malawi stuff etc.

with quotes from watchtowers if need be, as they seem to carry more weight than the bible does) and each of us to print off several copies and send to selected members of the local congregation - the ones we know / remember as the intelligent thinkers.

ICBehindtheCurtain

WAY TO GO, Schne, I am planning something similar, I am going to send info about this Crappy Borganization to some freinds that are currently in the dark, anonymously of course (fader), if we can all free some minds from this cult we will have done a service to mankind.

What do you think is going to happen when on service people start questioning the "brethren" about NGO, Malawi/Mexico etc.? I think that many JW's will at least begin wondering about some of this stuff.

IC

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Woohoo, just been DF'ed !!!

by Genesis in

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friends

yesterday i was annonced as the kingdom hall : genesis is no more a jehovah witness !

im so glad i made it, but in the same time i have remorses, but thats a phenomenon called homeostasis, the mind try to take things to normal...

so i have so much things to plan,do think !

ICBehindtheCurtain

Congratulations to you , someday when I've pulled out many more of my family and freinds from the cult, I just might join you!!

IC

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5 minute guide to knowing if Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth

by jwfacts in

i have just posted a new article at http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/5min.htm that is copied below.

can you please check it and make any suggestions?

a few bits may not make total sense as they are links to other pages in the website.

ICBehindtheCurtain

JWfacts that was GREAT!!! I was looking for precisely something like what you put together, there are some freinds I want to send info to anonymously but didn't want it to scare them off, this is perfect.

Keep up the good work!

IC

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FORGET MY PARANOIA! I'M IN THE SHOW!!!!!!

by stillAwitness in

well, i been signed to a modeling agency since april of 05. besides your boring "stand here and look pretty" kind of jobs i still have wasn't finding any real work.

but saturday i went to a go-see for some local designer who was looking for models to be in her next runway show.

of course, i have absolutely no expierence in doing runway and i swear i have two left feet

ICBehindtheCurtain

YOU GO GIRL!!!, when I was in my late teens, I was approached by a talent scout and had the opportunity of becoming a petite model, but of course I thought about it and said no (damn) because I was a JW and there were so many temptations, of course these were my moms words. Well I wish now I would have taken advantage of that opportunity. So I'm glad you are going for it, enjoy it, I wish you much success!!!

IC

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How do you think the world will end?

by free2beme in

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friends

i was watching this national geographic program called "the end" the other day.

it showed different events that could end mankind and possibly the planet.

in each one, there is true in possibilities and they never showed an example of god destroying the world.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I'm with Tetrapod it might happen it might not, either way I probably won't be here by then neither will my kids, so frankly I don't care.

Besides, i no longer waste my precious time here worrying about things that will probably never happen, I'lle cross that bridge when and if it ever comes.

Spring Gardening here I come!

IC

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Letting go of the black and white thinking...

by tall penguin in

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friends

i think that this is the most difficult lesson in leaving the jw world.

the black and white thinking created such a neat little world where everything was so easily explained and categorized, provided you didn't mind living in a bubble.

i think the one area of black and white thinking that caused me the most difficulty and cognitive dissonance was the question of jehovah's will vs. satan's temptations.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I simply wasted years of my life walking around spouting off utter nonsense with the utter conviction I was specially blessed totally right.

Terry, that is so true, I've wasted 28 years of my life on this nonsense, I also recall feeling so special because I thought all those poor ignorant people lived their lives only worrying about their houses (when we would be on svc in the ritzy part of town and they slammed the door on us), their cars and such, I felt superior because I knew the end was coming and they would realize what a mistake they had made, wow what realization this has been, to realize that these are generally good honest people just doing the best they can and enjoying their lives which is what we are now doing, no longer wasting precious Saturday mornings on disturbing people's lives, but instead sleeping late, playing with my kids, gardening there are so many worthwhile activities to enjoy now.

IC