ES, your baby is beautiful, and you look great! Enjoy her!
IC
hey all.
hope everyone is well.
we are doing great, kaia is growing up so fast already.
ES, your baby is beautiful, and you look great! Enjoy her!
IC
i got in officially in november of 1963 when i was baptised at the cleburne, texas assembly.
judicial committee cut me loose.. the way in consisted of having jehovah's witnesses demonstrate to me that there was considerable false information and hypocricy in christendom.
i lost confidence in what i had been told, taught and believed.. today, i believe that is also the way out of jehovah's witnesses!.
Terry, I am in complete agreement. I remember how sure I felt about what I believed to be the "Truth", while in service I felt sorry for the people that would slam the doors on us, because I thought "these people honestly believe the religion they are following, poor people they don't know they are being fooled" not realizing at the time that all religious people are in the same boat. One of the hardest things to do is to admit to yourself first, then others that you were WRONG, but unless you can do that, there's no moving on. To realize that you were fooled and now you have to wipe the slate and start again. But the reward of being free mentally is worth all the pain and effort. Thanks again Terry, this is a great thread.
IC
blondie will probably hit me with a pie for posting this, but she hasn't been feeling well for a few days and i just thought we would let her know we are hoping she feels better soon!
(could you make that blueberry?).
and to all the friends out there that are not feeling well.
Blondie, I hope you get to feeling better soon you are very loved around here!
IC
what proof is there that the jws were chosen by jehovah to be a "people for his name"?
growth in numbers is not proof, other religions also have displayed such growth over the last 100 years.. material prosperity is not proof as other religions also have considerable wealth, both in cash, property and real estate.. printing the watchtower and awake!
magazines certainly is not proof!.
NONE!!!! it's all talk. They think that like the Jews if they say it long enough everyone will believe it .
IC
when you left the religion or cult, which religion did you convert to.
remember, i dont need to know why you left, i just want to which religion did you convert to.
I would never join another religion, the philosophy that best describes my beliefs - Deism....A belief in a Creator without believing in religion.
IC
when a loved one leaves the watchtower society .
(a rational re-write of the september 1, 2006 watchtower article "when a loved one leaves jehovah", by scully).
(scans of the original article can be found here: re: wt desparate: aug 15 wt- in our next issue: when a loved one leaves jehovah) .
WOW Scully that was GREAT!!!! I have to print that out and maybe translate it, as we have quite a bit of spanish speaking folks around here, I might want to share that with. JUST BRILLIANT!!! Thanks.
IC
new biography of pastor russell.
ninety years ago the founder of the bible students, pastor charles taze russell, died.
the organization he established became fragmented and subject to strong personalities who felt they knew how to best continue his legacy.
Why oh why would anyone want to read about the person that iniciated this CRAP? I'm sorry but it was all CRAP, the Miracle Wheat, the measuring of a mans face to figure out if he is smart, the teaching that black people would become white, the pyramid measurements......all a load of BS, but hey, if you want to believe that, knock yourself out!!!! I on the other hand have given up on believing nonsense invented by another human with just as many faults as anyone else.
IC
'the illuminati are believed to be the brains behind the events which supposedly lead to a new world order in which the world will be run by a single fascist government and a large postion of the human race will be eliminated.'.
i found this quote in wikipedia, to be interesting down to the wtbts much quoted 'new world order.'.
i don't think this phrase is used so much nowadays but i do remember it being bandied about a lot in the past.. other than that....they seem to share the same aspirations..
I didn't know Bush Sr. used this phrase, if he did my following comment makes sense....a few months ago I was reading the books "Conversations with God" by Neal Donald Walsh, anyway, I found it quite interesting a little off, but still interesting, that is until I read book 2, and Mr. Walsh who I noticed throughout book 1 and 2 mentioned this New World Government as being the ideal, the red flag came up for me when I read the following supposedly from God.. "So the short-term solution to the world's foment may be a new social structure-a new, worldwide, government. There have been those leaders among you who have been insightful enough and brave enough to propose beginnings of such a new world order. Your George Bush (sr), whom history will judge to be a man of far greater wisdom, vision, compassion, and courage than contemporary society was willing or able to acknowledge, was such a leader", when I read this I couldn't believe it, I saw the whole picture at that moment how in the hell would God say that? What utter BS, I stopped reading after that and haven't picked it up since.
The interesting thing is that this Neale Donald Walsh guy has a huge following, I heard he is making a movie about the "Conversations with God" series of books. He is part of a group of people that are writing books and trying to push this one world government thingy, I also think the Transcendental Meditation movement is part of the plan somehow. I wonder how deep this Rabbit Hole goes?
IC
i don't post here much but this board has helped me through the process of extracting myself from this religion.
i thought i should share an experience that i had.. quick background: 4th of 5 generations of jw's leading back to beginning of the century.
first to leave the religion of all of the relatives and family.
This is very interesting, the day before yesterday I accidentaly found information on this ayahuasca plant, and read extensively on that subject. I find it strange that this would be posted today. I'm glad that you were helped I hope you completely recuperate.
IC
in looking through my files i came across this interesting information.
i may have orginally found this link here, but it was 2 years ago and my mind is a blurr from then.
the chart has a column for pagan custom, wt reason, reality check.
Pagans are kool!!!
IC