Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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If there is a God - I'm REALLY PI$$ED at him

by AWAKE&WATCHING in

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i've got one post for the next 14 hours so i figure i'll make it count.. when i was 21 i began to really question the state of the world.

you know- "is this life all there is, yadda yadda.

" that sort of thing.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I was once where you are now, wondering why it seemed that we had been abandoned by God, and looking at all the good that could be done if there was some sort of intervention. Well, I kept reading and searching for answers, and came to a few conclusions, they are my own, everyone is free to think as they want, I mean who really knows? I do believe in a Creator/Creatress who designed everything we see, I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God, I just think it's composed of myths, stories some invented some borrowed, some historical tidbits here and there.

I don't believe God wants to intervene I think we have to figure it out for ourselves, we have the resources, the abilities to make a difference here on earth and many people already have. It's up to us and that is a very scary thought for many people they would rather believe in pretty fairytales that solve all our questions but supply no real solutions. I have more to say, but have to go and cook right now, so that is my two cents so far.

I wish you peace

IC

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The enemy of a GOOD LIFE now: Jehovah's Witnesses' idea of the PERFECT

by Terry in

the connection between thinking and acting; belief and behavior is a vital link; mostly because what we do constitutes our life moment to moment.. we are caught in a flowing rush we cannot escape as though tossed into a raging river.

i am talking about your life.

you cannot escape time and the inexorable movement of events around you.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Terry, thank you very much for sharing that with us, you are so right!!!! I am by no means religious anymore, but I do admire Joel Osteen for the reasons you mentioned, he takes that book (the bible) and uses it to tell the people that God does want us to be prosperous and to be the best that we can be HERE AND NOW, not in some future paradise as with the JW dream...I don't agree with all the "bless the lord" stuff he says, but hey if it is necessary so he can help so many people to get ahead, get educated, use their talents and enjoy this life I see it as a good thing! Of course the ideal thing would be to free people from the religious binds altogether, but sometimes abandoning the God of the bible is just too scary for many people. Terry you are a true asset to us, I appreciate your hard work, Thanks!!

IC

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A Moment of Silence For Linda

by BFD in

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WHAT QUESTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK JEHOVAH'S LAWYERS?

by badboy in

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any takers?

ICBehindtheCurtain

I know you know that there is no "Jehovah" and no "Jesus his son" and no "Annointed" and no "True Religion" how can you harm so many people, sleep at night and still look at yourself in the mirror? you bastards deserve all the crap your going to eventually get!!!

IC

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SURVEY: Who Believes In "God"?

by minimus in

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and by that i mean the supreme being or jehovah or jesus or buddah or whatever you might consider to be "god".

ICBehindtheCurtain

I am led to understand that some of you have no hope for your future other than an eternal dirt nap. If that is so,
I don't really understand that,yet.

lalliv01, in reference to your comment, although I don't believe in the bible god, I do have hope for my future. After researching Near Death Experiences (NDE's) and Children's past life memories, I embraced the belief that death is not the end, but an end to the particular experience we are living at the time, I am at peace and feel that eventually we will all find out what happens in the end anyway! So I try to live everyday the best I can, and enjoy this experience, and help others do the same. I don't pray to the Creator for stuff, I just feel gratitude and give thanks. I don't feel that we need to worship anyone, that idea came from mens minds.

IC

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SURVEY: Who Believes In "God"?

by minimus in

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and by that i mean the supreme being or jehovah or jesus or buddah or whatever you might consider to be "god".

ICBehindtheCurtain

I agree with Eclipse...I don't believe in the bible god, however, do believe that some kind of Creator made all of this happen, put all the necessary laws in place, created all that we would need and then some....and let us do with it what we may.

just my two cents,

IC

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How Do You Get on the Cover of a BOrg Magazine?

by Clam in

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does anyone know where the models come from who appear on awakea and watchtowera magazines?

it would make sense to me that theyre dubsa as this would be saving the societya money.

or are they worldlya people?

ICBehindtheCurtain

I have through the years seen many people I knew from NY in the Mags, mainly these are people that are JW Elite you know, pioneers, elders, bethelites, MS's that kissed alot of butt, my brother told me something quite interesting about the WTS's Youth video, he said that a few of the kids that were on it were living double lives, involved in drinking, premarital sex and so on, but in the KH were little saints, he knows because he has always been on the fringe himself and hung out with them, he said alot of those kids are no longer JW's. Wow and to think, I used to beel so inadecuate because I couldn't be a Regular Pioneer!!! boy am I glad I never wasted my time in that way, now!!!

IC

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God help me - Just finished Crisis of Conscience

by Orgull in

i don't know whether to laugh or cry.. a friend lent me coc yesterday and i stayed up most of the night reading it.

it took me 13 hours and i skipped the meeting today to keep reading, i couldn't bear to put it down.. i am shocked but not surprised at how closely ray's thinking mirrors my own in some ways.

the part that hit me hardest was.... "conviction, it has no meaning or validity unless it is individual, personal.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Welcome, It's wonderful to see another person has been freed from the brainwashing!!! When I first found out the truth about this organization it was like the rug was pulled out from under my feet, everything I ever believed and knew as truth, I came to realize was just a lie!! It was very scary in the beginning, but it only gets better and better! I am free now, and have helped many others free themselves from this lie! You have come to the right place, the people here are great!!! Many here believe different things (and disagree at times) but mostly we all support, and help each other, this is a true brotherhood !

I wish you the best in your journey!

IC

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Alberto Gonzales resigned

by Mulan in

just read it on www.msn.com he is having a press conference today to make the announcement.. it's about time..

ICBehindtheCurtain

Good Riddance Gonzo!!!!!!!! Now I bet the WTS Legal dept. is tripping over themselves trying to recruit Gonzo to their legal team, he fills their qualification #1.....the truth is only what the boss says the truth is, and lying isn't lying it's "theocratic warfare"! Also, he has lots of experience forgetting what he has done or said in the past.....a perfect match for this crap Borg.

IC

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Paedo cases in the org and pioneers.......

by jambon1 in

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have you ever sat at a convention or assembly and heard an experience from the platform about how some asswipe pioneer received a bundle of cash for their car repairs, "just in time to keep going in the pioneer service".

or some other form of material advantage, credited to god as the provider.. now, let's for a wee minute, assume that these were actual blessings from god.

he actually took action.

ICBehindtheCurtain

This is so incredibly annoying.....I hear it all the time from my pioneer mom, she absolutely believes this, every time she is hard up for money it is us apostates (all of my brothers and sisters) that help her out.....but it is Jehoover that gets the credit!!! Like someone else said, they use the excuse that "Jehoover moved that person to help them"...give me a freakin break!!! Sooooooo.......now whenever she want's to go on vacation we don't contribute for that....let Jehoover move some of the brothers at the Kingdom Hell to help her....we always help for necessary things, but luxuries....hell no, if she wants those, she should get a simple job helping the old people in her building, which she has already been offered but refused becauuuusssse........"it would interfere with her pioneering hours", the whole situation just aggravates the hell out of me!!!!

IC