with the "new" way jw's are expelled from the congregations how would the congregation know who left on their own(disassociated) themselves or was disfellowshipped for "wrongdoing".
when i left the elders told me that they would tell the congregation that i "disassociated"my self and that would be that.
the whole congregation would know that i left on my own and was not expelled for immorality or wrongdoing.
I agree with willowyman Da'ing was always seen as the really bad thing, that only someone haughty and that had rejected Jehovah would do.
I think that in view of the WTS's ne policy, as soon as you know you no longer can stand going to meetings etc, you should write a letter or make a phone call to your JW freinds before they suspect anything, and explain why you are taking this course, then when it is announced they will fill in the rest as to why you are no longer a JW.
IC
a huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
WOW! Excellent work all of you, you guys are amazing!
THANK YOU!
IC
in the interest of completeness, i will post this part of my notes as well, even though it was not as controversial as other parts.
more controversial and/or ridiculous astatements to follow in later postings.
talk 9: preparing talks for the congregation - brothr local elder
I think there will be more and more elders giving up their positions, due to all this nonsensical crap! which is WONDERFULL!
WTS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOU ARE DOING GREAT!!!!
IC
Oops defd you forgot to say - If Jehovah permits, you have sinned and shown a haughty attitude and for this you will be punished, just yanking your chain defd .
IC
this past weekend, i attended my family's annual reunion (scheduled a week before thanksgiving, and they served turkey...hmmm) and became literally sick because they are all jw and talked of nothing else.
i finally realized how sad the normal jw's life is.
they really have nothing else going for them, thats why the thought of leaving is so unbelievable.
This is really scary, they all say the same things, my mom went through that with me, all jokes aside, this really is like the Borg, I should have kept my mouth shut, and was successful for quite awhile, but eventually my mouth took over when she began getting sarcastic and speaking down to me and some things came out, which I regret having said, only because she is in her mid 60's, divorced, a regular pioneer, what else does she have? Some of my family that is in the know and I decided we would not say anything so as not to affect her, but well, it's done, she knows how we feel, but that we still attend the meetings and has left it alone, thank God.
Cori, you did well by just smiling and nodding and such, don't open you mouth,unless you are willing to deal with the consequences.
IC
i remember thinking that the magazines were "holy".
i was afraid to throw them away.
isn't this like idol worship?
I see what you mean, and I used to feel the same way, had boxes and boxes of the stuff, because I just couldn't bear to throw them away- what if, when persecution comes and they take away all our literature at the hall, I can hide all this literature and share it among the brethren, as a source of spiritual food?WHAT BS!
Now, however they have served a better purpose, they have been excellent therapy for me - during my journey out of the brainwashing I eventually got to the point where you feel extreme anger at the WTS for all the damage they have caused to so many people, for their arrogance etc. well I felt a great sense of release and pleasure with every WT and Awake Mag I ripped up and dumped out, it was great, really.
I did something beneficial for myself and cleared the crap from my house all at the same time.
IC
sam harris' book "the end of faith, (religion, terror, and the future of reason)" is out in paper back.
it had been on "the new york times bestseller" list for some time, and i just picked up a copy yesterday.
has anyone else on the jwd read this book?
JAVA, thanks for that, it always brings tears to my eyes, lets keep the dream alive in our hearts and maybe someday hopefully within our lifetime this can be a reality.
IC
a huge question that i have in the back of my mind regarding the wts is where all of the money ends up.
no one really has a conclusive answer to that.
i think it would reveal a lot if we were able to find out.. i know there have been various threads in the past where it revealed a clue here and a clue there.
Atlantis thank you for that link - what the watchtower reps. say is truly amazing crap, I have to type some of it out to share here, so everyone can see the lies and coverup from their own lips, oh, and thanks for your breakdown of what these crooks are raking in, while having the audacity to ask the congregations for money to pay for their employees, the CO's, this stuff should be gathered and forwarded to the IRS, this really pisses me off , the R & F told to keep their life simple, don't be materialistic, don't save for retirement and they are raking in billions AARRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
I hope they get taxed to the max in the US and every other country.
IC
forenote from danny haszard: here we have the unholy watchtower trinity,(1)college degree (2) internet 'tool of satan' (3)unlawful sex pedophilia
glasgow daily record, uk - 2 hours ago .
graduate jailed for a year after grooming 13-year-old girl for sex
defd, closes eyes, and silently says, it's not true, it's all apostate lies, Jehovah's people live in spiritual paradise, repeats this 5 times, does a prayer, and gets back on the JWD to continue his witnessing work.
IC
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or is it a detriment to society?.
i'm sure this has been asked before, but since there are so many new people here i'll ask again.... j
defd, yeah, what Nic said? I have also wondered about that, if you are for real, then that only shows how deep cult brainwashing can go. How can you read all the stuff on here and still believe in this religion?
IC
