i remember the watchtower organization having me so scared of jehovah that i was getting paranoid.
i kept thinking he was watching me no matter where i was at.
i wouldn't dare say anything bad against the organization because jehovah was listening to me.
Absolutely NOT! I don't believe in that lying, selfish, abusive, phsycotic man made god anymore than I believe in Santa Claus, oh wait....no, Santa is real ! I do however believe in a Creator, and instead of me being afraid of him, I am at times in awe when contemplating his creation.
IC
the door to door work is a sham.. the central activity of the watchtower bible and tract society is not spreading their so-called "messege" about the kingdom of jehovah established in the heavens in 1914. that's a load of propaganda.. the door to door activity is feckless in producing converts.
in fact, it is an immense failure of mammoth proportions!.
but, it is a diversion.
Excellent thread Terry! I've often wondered about this. When talking to my mom who is a regular pioneer for quite a few years, I asked her how many people she has brought into this religion, her answer "0" none, nada, they either moved away, or just lost interest. I totally agree, the preaching mostly helps them stay busy. And boy would I love to know where the money is going!
IC
recently e-watchman started deleting/suspending (theres a difference?
) accounts of people on the e-jehovahs-witnesses.com forum left and right which he and the moderating team deemed to be discussing apostate things as in apostate in brother kings own vision, further detailed in some posts (basicly barring out discussions of jw doctrine).. i suppose my own offenses was my "staying in the org.
" thread and one that explained that one should not depend on kh's to be able of worshipping.
Hi Spiceant, I used to be on e-watchman's forum "Paradise Cafe" about a year ago but decided to leave after I kept researching and decided the whole JW thing is a big lie, it seems e-watchman is still hell bent on thinking that there is some credibility to that religion. I also did not agree with this banning thing, doesn't he realize people are tired of being restricted from speaking their minds? That website helped me to start opening my eyes without feeling too uneasy about being in an "apostate" website, since in the beginning he was an active JW, it wasn't till later when he got DF'd. I'm glad your'e here Spiceant, were a much nicer group, diverse, intelligent, and fun!
IC
hope you are all well!!
my husband and i listened to this audio experience of a cicuit servant and his wife who began to have questions and left the organization.
it is excellent!!!
((((((((Mouthy)))))))) hugs and kisses back to you! I know what you mean about the rejection we received out on svc....quite a training that was in developing a thick skin eh?
IC
hope you are all well!!
my husband and i listened to this audio experience of a cicuit servant and his wife who began to have questions and left the organization.
it is excellent!!!
Dear Mouthy, I am truly sorry if I offended you, not my intention, I admire you actually, youve' got alot of spunk....If you feel fulfilled believing in Jesus Christ...by all means, that is your choice and you are free to do so. It's just that after being lied to for over 30 years by the WTS, I chose to take apart everything I used to believe in, I wanted to find the truth. While I was on my journey I reached the point where I was reading the bible only with no WT publications and it was if I was reading the NT for the first time, I saw Jesus Christ in a whole new light, and had what I would describe as a religious experience, I accepted Christ in my heart and even prayed to him.......But, I didn't stop there, I kept searching and found information that lead me to abandon the Bible and Jesus Christ. I today believe in God the Creator, but my Bible is Nature, it cannot be misinterpreted, mistranslated or misquoted. I am truly happy today, and feel much peace. If your faith brings you to a happy place....so be it, that is your choice.
IC
hope you are all well!!
my husband and i listened to this audio experience of a cicuit servant and his wife who began to have questions and left the organization.
it is excellent!!!
Together with my belief in the Bible, I have abandoned my belief in christ after I researched all the myths before him that coincide with all his miracles, virgin birth, turning water to wine, dying and resurrecting on the 3rd day, even down to the 12 apostles, I would rather know the truth than to close my eyes and believe in a lie.
IC
the wbt$ caims to speak for god..a god that intends to exterminate eveyone except jehovah`s witness`s..a god that can`t make his mind up about what the truth is,or what his people the "jehovah`s witness`s" should preach..a god who`s organization the wbt$,is absolutly corrupt..a god who say`s exactly what the wbt$ tells him to say.....does the wbts god "jehovah" exsist?...outlaw
That's a resounding NO!
IC
i think that the bible gives hope and comfort.
i also think that the bible is a good book without me saying too much.
but is it a product of god?
PrimateDave, right on target! I just thought of a few more:
It teaches us that if we are virgins and our father is the only male around, we can mate with him, if we make him drunk first.
It teaches us that if you have male guests, and the locals want to rape them, offer them your daughters instead.
It teaches us that Disney movies are correct, sometimes animals can talk.(ie,talking donkey,snake)
It teaches us that if our kids talk back to us we can stone them to death, and that's ok with God.
I know there's more....
IC
just wondering, all who have left, are leaving, or are still 'in' and no longer believe.. jw's have the hope of living forever...paradise...etc.. what is your hope for the future?.
do you still think there is the chance of living forever...paradise...etc..
I absolutely have a hope for my future! I no longer believe anything the JW's say, nor do I believe in the Bible. But I do believe that there is a Creator and I believe we are all a piece of him/her/it. I believe I am eternal, I came to live this particular experience in this shell I inhabit now, which I will one day leave, to maybe return and live another experience. What I want to focus on though is now, today, to live the best life and help whoever I can in any way I can. Sometimes it will be helping someone to free their mind from the enslavement to ideas and beliefs that hinder the human experience.
We all have god given talents that if developed can enhance our lives and those of others around us. Living our life believing we should slave and spend our time worshipping some God because a 2000 year old book tells us to, is a terribly sad thing.
IC
hi everyone.... i was thinking about the whole star in bethlehem issue as many have posted on the subject.
and something struck me as strange.
and i wanted to know if any of you have ever thought about this:.
This together with a host of other contradictions, errors and revisions in the bible is the reason I no longer believe in this book.
IC
