Honesty:
It can't be all that great because the brothers did not approve of my ex and I using it as an aid in home-schooling our kids.
WHA??? What ridiculous reason do they have for making such an assertion?
when the wt gets anything this right, it will be a happy day for the governing body.
but then again, the national geographic has the built in advantage of having an editorial content that focuses on reality.
"thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste.
Honesty:
It can't be all that great because the brothers did not approve of my ex and I using it as an aid in home-schooling our kids.
WHA??? What ridiculous reason do they have for making such an assertion?
okay, let's say you find yourself in the big easy.
no lights, no phone, no motorcar, not a single luxury.. you have kids, you have yourself.
everyone is hungry, and thirsty, and drinking the water will kill you (even walking around in it isn't real safe.).
I used to think I'd never do such a thing, that I'd die first. But, I've got all kinds of assumptions left over from my JW days that I'd never think to re-examine if it wasn't for threads like this.
I think I could live with the idea of taking only what I need and paying for it later when the stores are re-opened.
well here they are...i had a horrible time.
seirously, i did.
i was so stressed before the reception i collapsed.
Didn't I warn you about showing up looking better than everyone else there???
You've got a good-lookin' family - you guys look like you should have been in the wedding procession.
ok this is my first attempt....this is a pic of my makeup and hair trial for the wedding es
Yay! You finally got it up! You look awesome!
it really struck me last night that my dad is pretty much gone.
he has advanced alzheimers, and is slowly dying of kidney failure from 40 years of diabetes.
the family stepped in and said no to dialysis, because it would be 5 hours per day 3 days per week - minimum, for limited return on quality of life.
I lost my maternal grandmother to Alzheimers, my maternal grandfather to kidney failure. {{{{{Brenda}}}}}
can anyone confirm if their doctrin of the reserection has been changed?
a witness idiot i know has been trying to preach to me online trying to convert me.
he has stability issues himself with flip flopping back and forth between the "world" and the "truth".
It seemed weird to me, when I was still "in", that all imperfect people who were alive @ Armageddon would be killed. Yet, in the "new system," people would be tested again, only this time they'd have had a thousand years to work out the kinks and would have perfect minds and bodies working for them. No fair!
if jesus is god then mary is the mother of god so the roman catholics are correct
If Jesus was God, than his death upset the scales of justice, but in the other direction. Whereas before man was condemned to death via Adamic sin, the death of God would be an overcompensation as opposed to a ransom of equal exchange.
can anyone confirm if their doctrin of the reserection has been changed?
a witness idiot i know has been trying to preach to me online trying to convert me.
he has stability issues himself with flip flopping back and forth between the "world" and the "truth".
Reasoning from the Scriptures: "Resurrection", p.339-340
Who will be included in the earthly resurrection? "Both those who lived in harmony with God's righteous ways and people who, out of ignorance, did unrighteous things will be resurrected. The Bible does not answer all our questions as to whether certain specific individuals who have died will be resurrected. Butwe can be confident that God, who knows all the facts, will act impartially, with justice tempered by mercy that does not ignore his righteous standards." [Those who committed "unforgivable sins" would have their "memory... blotted out in Gehenna."]
The Reasoning book is vague about who will be destroyed @ Armageddon, citing a list of scriptures without commentary. It does have this to say in answer to the question "What will happen to young children at Armageddon?" [p. 47-48]
The Bible does not directly answer that question, and we are not the judges. However, the Bible does show that God views the young children of true Christians as "holy." (1 Cor. 7:14) It also reveals that in times past when God destroyed the wicked he likewise destroyed their little ones. (Num. 16:27, 32; Eze. 9:6) God does not want anyone to be destroyed, so he is having a warning sounded now to benefit both parents and children. Would it not be wise for parents to pursue a course that would result in their children being looked on with favor by God both now and at Armageddon?"
So, according to the Org, God will resurrect ignorant adults who do bad things, but not ignorant children who didn't get a chance to learn right from wrong. Also, given that we can't say any particular individual will be resurrected, shouldn't we stop handing out the Dead Loved Ones tract since we're inspiring false hope in people in an effort to get them to study with us?
MidwichCuckoo:
The 'new thinking' on the Generation (quote below) means nothing to me. I cannot make any sense of it. Is it just me? 12 Therefore, in the final fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy today, "this generation" apparently refers to the peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ's presence but fail to mend their ways. (WT Nov 1st 1995)
To me, this means any group of people "who see the sign of Christ's presence but fail to mend their ways" qualifies as "this generation." IOW, as long as there is a group of people on earth who see the things described in the relevant portions of Matthew 24 and don't become JWs, they can be called "this generation." There is no longer a time range imposed on the lifespan of a "generation." We could be sitting here in 2100 AD and, as long as someone could point to developments that resemble Matthew 24, those who see it and don't convert can be called "this generation." It's a vague and malleable definition. And with the creation of the "Nethinim" class, "this system" really could go on that long, since there's no longer an expectation that the "anointed" will still be on earth during the "great tribulation" and the "Nethinim" are expected to care for the spiritual needs of the R&F after the "anointed" have left the earth.
after being on here now for a little while, i decided to ask my mother this weekend about whether armageddon is still supposed to come before the generation of 1914 is gone.
so this leaves me a little confused- is this right, is this what they still teach?
or has something changed?
I was disturbed by the change explaining the creation of the role of the "Nethinim" in '92. They had invented a class that could take-over once the FDS was gone and make sure that, even after the 144,000 were resurrected to heaven, "the other sheep must go on increasing." This change alone made it clear that the Org had abandoned the "there will still be anointed on the earth when the great tribulation starts" belief. This also meant that the system could go on forever.
But I had only gotten baptized the year before, so I knew how to not let it bother me too much.
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