Posts by MrTheocratic

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

MrTheocratic

@freddo

Either way you put it...the person who "claims" to be a brother does not practice christian living...so what should be done with him?

This scripture says shun him.

Am I missing something? (No sarcasm meant)

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

MrTheocratic

We can't totally blame the witnesses for there stance. The practice of shunning is found in the Bible.

Robo Bobo

"anyone who claims to be a brother or sister" - this is not talking about someone formerly baptized who decides they want nothing to do with the religion

I don't think that thought is in line with what this Scripture says. It clearly is an admonition to stop mixing in company with anyone who was Formerly a brother but who now chooses to live another life.

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

MrTheocratic

International Version 1 Cor 5:11

But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

If shunning is wrong. .how does one explain this scripture?

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Model Jw family?

by MrTheocratic in

i would like to get the opinion of those on this community.

does serving as an elder make one a bad family man.

with all the demands placed on those serving... how can one make time for family life?

MrTheocratic

I would like to get the opinion of those on this community. Does serving as an Elder make one a bad family man. With all the demands placed on those serving... how can one make time for family life? And especially if this person works full time. I suspect that a lot of these model families that are placed on pedestals ( pioneer mother, kids sitting quietly and attentively at mtg., elder dad) are all phony.

Now I could be wrong.... but I don't think so. As you think about the so called model families in your time with the Jw's , or maybe that was your family, .........was it for real or was it all for others to see?

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Whats the one thing

by MrTheocratic in

jw's are constantly trying to prove they have the truth.

they always point to matthew 24:14 and say "who is accomplishing this work today?

this proves we have the truth and gods backing".. for those of us in this community looking from the other side what is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have gods backing?

MrTheocratic

Jw's are constantly trying to prove they have the truth. They always point to Matthew 24:14 and say "who is accomplishing this work today? This proves we have the truth and Gods backing".

For those of us in this community looking from the other side What is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have Gods backing?

For me my one thing is the inability of the GB to admit past failures when it comes to understanding. To me if you can't admit that.... yes we did mislead people in the past about 1975 and yes we did mislead some to not have children and get married, and for that we are sorry." if a person can't admit there mistakes... can they really be trusted?

That's mine ... what's yours?

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Hulu’s ‘The Path’ portrays family life inside a cult

by freemindfade in

this looks great for people who are both cult survivors and aaron paul fans!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/slow-but-emotionally-creepy-hulus-the-path-portrays-family-life-inside-a-cult/2016/03/29/43840c46-f2c5-11e5-a61f-e9c95c06edca_story.html.

slow but emotionally creepy, hulu’s ‘the path’ portrays family life inside a cult.

MrTheocratic

I just checked out the 1st episode. It's crazy the similarities. It's like watching an episode of jw dot org The uncut version. I was laughing when the young lady , who looks to be disfellowshiped gets out her car to talk with her elderly parents....but she is suddenly stopped by 3 men who were hiding out to talk to her. As she is running away one of the elders says " we just want to talk with you".

Again ....crazy similarities

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1-2016 Circuit Overseer Mid week talk "Believe Inspired truth not inspired error" Crazy stuff

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba7j3shtbgy.

MrTheocratic

Believe it or not I'm happy you posted this talk. About a month ago we had the same talk given to my congregation and I was wondering if my C.O. was going off the outline or inserting his own ideas.

When it came to the part dealing with the "end of the world" he paused and emphatically said "The End will come in your life time". I was shocked the org. would put something like that in the outline. Then I thought "who's lifetime was he referring to, ......the young people in the audience or 80 year old bro. Jones who is about to have heart surgery?"

The C.O. in this recording did not take such liberties.

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Do todays Jw's care at all about Russell and the pyramid?

by olongapo joe in

just wondering, as i will be visiting active jw family in ohio in a few weeks, do you think it will be worthwhile dropping it into a conversation, about the wtbts pyramid near his grave, or try some other topic to try and wake them up.

i was never baptized and don't really care if they get upset or not, but it is only a day trip from ohio to pittsburgh, and thought it would be fun if they denied it, and then drove their to see it for ourselves.

MrTheocratic

Most JW'S are on a constant treadmill of theocratic activities that time to meditate about things never really happens. Even though Russell is considered to be the beloved grandfather of JW'S , your friends will simply blame his tomb on old light. "We don't believe that anymore" thinking.

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What's the purpose of being a JW now?

by MrTheocratic in

with all the recent changes to this religion, what really is the purpose of being a jw?

especially for those who have been in and witnessed all the changes and still no sight of the end.

for these ones in particular (35-55 year olds) they must be in a state of confusion.

MrTheocratic

With all the recent changes to this religion, what really is the purpose of being a JW? Especially for those who have been in and witnessed all the changes and still no sight of the end. For these ones in particular (35-55 year olds) they must be in a state of confusion. And if they are totally honest with themselves they must be asking ..."why continue? " Even though I'm still in I'm awake and I go through the motions. ....I can't for the life of me, understand how anyone with a honest mind can continue to believe that these men in Brooklyn are somehow divine? This I believe is the reason why recent converts to the organization have been persons who are either psychologically impaired or have drug issues ( I'm basing this off of what I see locally), not normal people. A normal person would see no use for this religion. What do you think?

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Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

by MrTheocratic in

i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

MrTheocratic

All points made are fare. Fridays attendance was around 7000 and the meeting was held in a very large room. If I had to put a number on it I would say attendance was like 3 congregations put together.