he was formerly a DO, dynamic speaker, scriptural analyist, scholar, heavy hitter, direct connection to the GB... very powerful.....then he , ahem....left...where is he today, anybody have any idea???
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Leora Brown, DO..where is he today??
by chipster inhe was formerly a do, dynamic speaker, scriptural analyist, scholar, heavy hitter, direct connection to the gb... very powerful.....then he , ahem....left...where is he today, anybody have any idea??
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Climbing the Corporate Ladder - Why They Do It
by Black Man inthat the wts is nothing more than a business is painfully obvious in the way many brothers seek 'positions'.
i was always highly doubtful of the 'appointed by holy spirit' bs that we were always fed.
appointments often came down to who kissed up the most to the decision-makers.
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sheeesh, that post felt good!!!!
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Climbing the Corporate Ladder - Why They Do It
by Black Man inthat the wts is nothing more than a business is painfully obvious in the way many brothers seek 'positions'.
i was always highly doubtful of the 'appointed by holy spirit' bs that we were always fed.
appointments often came down to who kissed up the most to the decision-makers.
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great topic!!
when i was a young, hotshot elder i was accused of climbing the "theocratic ladder"...i was incensed at such an accusation.
later , i realized that the elder that made the remark was absolutely correct.
i was coached on how to get the "promotion" from MS to elder... get your hours up, and DO NOT auxilialary pioneer...the hours for that month will be taken out of the average...just put in 20-30 hours for a few months, and stay above the national average for the rest...you will look real good when the CO comes to town and reviews your publisher card(which incidentally is NOT your property anymore).
and then, kiss ass. take the CO and his wife to dinner; tell him how loving all the elders are (you are not a dissident, but a team player); tell him of your aspirations to get into the "full time work" (sheeesh, i thought being a servant of Jah WAS a full time undertaking) and then kiss some more ass, and send the CO and his wife (if he is not gay, LOL) on his way with at least a $50 dollar bill, better yet a $100 dollar bill , and say "jehovah be with you my brother"..
i'll be damned if it doesn't work EVERY time!!!!! LOLtoday, i no longer climb any damn ladders, corporate or theocratic. i am an artist and an entrepreneur. i love life, and i live in the "NOW"...without fear.
i have two great sons, lots of "worldly" friends, and an ex-wife in AZ....what else could i ask for....i count my blessings every day, and thank the creator for my awesome life...
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Bethel Getting Paranoid, Tightening Screws
by AlanF ini have it from solid sources that brooklyn and patterson are now recording all incoming telephone calls.. a word to the wise if you have friends there you talk to.. alanf
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sorry, meant DC, district convention, not DO.
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Bethel Getting Paranoid, Tightening Screws
by AlanF ini have it from solid sources that brooklyn and patterson are now recording all incoming telephone calls.. a word to the wise if you have friends there you talk to.. alanf
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recording is nothing new.......did you realize that every talk at the DO is tape recorded AND monitored????
there is holy hell to pay if you deviate from the outline provided by WTS....if you do, you will be pulled aside and severely counseled, and you can kiss any future apeaking assignments bye-bye... had a buddy that took me behind the scenes, there were three brothers there monitoring the talks....whew.....even the COs and DOs tremble at the thought of some pion elder capturing a misspoken line on tape...LOL -
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Please Respond To Survey! 25 more needed please.
by Big Jim init seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?
for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .
thanks.
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born into it...parents were baptized in NYC 1958..i was six. father's mom associated with cong, so did aunt and uncle.. guess the whole family kind of followed suit. wow, never really thought about it.
interesting survey.
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URGENT..............
by open_mind ini recieved a voicemail from my bookstudy conductor last night.
he wants me to agree to a shepherding call.
i do not want to meet with them.. my question is if i do not agree to have this meeting with them, are they going to force me into a judicial hearing for not following the direction of the elders?.
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ask the good shepard what the topic for conversation is.....
btw, do you have an upcoming CO visit?? as a former elder, i can tell you that we used to have to do a lot of "catch up" on sheparding calls right before the CO visit. LOL that way we could tell the CO that we've been very diligent in caring for the flock..LOL -
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"kill a temporary, save a bethelite"
by chipster inanyone ever heard this before??
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), and was appalled to hear this for the first time.. what a bunch of lazy ass bethelites us hardworking temporaries were assigned to work with...busting out old walls on the towers building....those poor fellows couldn't make it in the real world, i'm afraid...ya gotta love it!!
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anyone ever heard this before???...during my theocratic rising star days i was accepted to temporary bethel service (whew, appointment by holy spirit???), and was appalled to hear this for the first time.. what a bunch of lazy ass bethelites us hardworking temporaries were assigned to work with...busting out old walls on the Towers building....those poor fellows couldn't make it in the real world, i'm afraid...ya gotta love it!! LOL
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"out there"....a SCARY place to be!!!
by chipster inwow.....thanks for the warm welcome.... i was just thinking what an interesting journey that it's been since june of last year, when i was dfd for the second time.. some of you wanted to hear my "story"...well, was raised in the truth...elder, pioneer (wanted those special blessings, ya know) cir ass.
parts, the whole thing... left my wife of 27 years, and made the long trek back to reinstatement after 18 months of humiliating abuse by the most dysfunctional group of "spiritual men" (yeah, right) that i have ever seen.
finally came back, crawling on my knees(i was "humbled", don't you know)...well, without getting into details, "sinned" then "confessed" and was promptly dfd again.... the scariest part at first, of being dfd, was "being out there" without jehovah's protection....all alone...no one to support me in my spiritual recovery....subject to demonic attack.....jehovah withholding his protection and blessings.....sheeeesh, that's enogh to scare the hell out of anyone!!!
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wow.....thanks for the warm welcome.... i was just thinking what an interesting journey that it's been since june of last year, when i was DFd for the second time.
some of you wanted to hear my "story"...well, was raised in the truth...elder, pioneer (wanted those SPECIAL blessings, ya know) cir ass. parts, the whole thing..
left my wife of 27 years, and made the long trek back to reinstatement after 18 months of humiliating abuse by the most DYSfunctional group of "spiritual men" (yeah, right) that i have ever seen. finally came back, crawling on my knees(i was "humbled", don't you know)...well, without getting into details, "sinned" then "confessed" and was promptly DFd again...
the scariest part at first, of being DFd, was "being out there" without jehovah's protection....all alone...no one to support me in my spiritual recovery....subject to demonic attack.....Jehovah withholding his protection and blessings.....sheeeesh, that's enogh to scare the hell out of anyone!!! LOL
i was taught that it was impossible to have a relationship with the Creator, unless you were actively a part of the org....i thought...everything that i do is doomed...subject to failure...why even bother...i'm gonna be destroyed at the big "A" anyway...hell, i might as well end it all right now......LOL
but, in time, i came to realize that :
1) there IS life after the organization, and DFing
2) the WTB&TS does not corner the market OR hold a franchise on "spirituality"
3) there ARE spiritual people out there that are not JWs..
4) that i could have a relationship with god if i chose to
5) that His love is UNconditional, contrary to what we were taught.i didn't realize how isolated that i was , eevn while in the org....i was part of ONE community...and had maybe one or two friends...now, i am part of several communities....and i havve many, many friends (yes, in the "world") that love and support me...God, i am so thankful for them after i was "handed over to Satan"....my true friends were there for me.....
i have come to the conclusion that the "truth" is for each of us to decide.. we have to live in our own "truth" , i feel, and live a life of authenticity, and in integrity..
i believe that we all choose our own path...that we are all accountable for our actions....and that we are created in Jehovah's image, and his greatest quality is LOVE....
i got so damn sick and tired of all the nitpicking and judgementalism of all of the "spiritually strong, mature" ones.....the rules.....policies...and procedures......and finally being told that i couldn't tell jehovah "good morning"...LOL
whew...........
what i finally discovered was that it was not jehovah holding me back, but it was my own self limiting beliefs...due to 42 years of programming....there is nothing holding me back...except myself....
i am not adrift at sea...being left there all by myself to die...i am very much alive now...participating in the adventure of LIFE...and for that i am very grateful....i guess that the "truth" worked for me for a while.....but then again...so did alcohol....but then one day it stopped working for me....
if it all ended today...i would be able to say that it was a hell of a ride...and that i don't regret one minute of the past. life IS good.
thanks for letting me say my piece here, you guys!!!
peace, love, and joy to all.
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hello from a newbie....
by chipster inhello everyone from a newbie...my ex-fiance( i still love her dearly) turned me on to this site...what a great place!!.
i was dfd a year ago and decided not to come back....and ya know what???
there is life after dfing....wow... hope you guys will have me here for a while......... love and peace to all!
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hello everyone from a newbie...my ex-fiance( i still love her dearly) turned me on to this site...what a great place!!
i was DFd a year ago and decided not to come back....and ya know what??? there IS life after DFing....wow..
hope you guys will have me here for a while........
love and peace to all!