i just found out today (from my sister) that crooklyn will not be making any more bound volumes of the watchtower or awake magazines after this year------instead, they're all going to be on audio tape only.
she does not have a computer so i generously
i think this could very well be yet another tactic of the gb trying to keep a lid on their "embarassing" quotes of yesterday.
The magazines HAVE been on CD for some time. From what I understand they originally were in MP3 format, but supposedly they are/will be availible in regular CD format so your sister will be able to play them that way. Of course, if she has a DVD player that can handle the MP3 format she doesn't need a computer. I have seen and heard this done.
They are not to be confused with the library CD which continues to have the same information that a bound volume would have.
so what do you like ladies and gentalmen, .
on men that is.
facail hair on women doesn't really do it for me.
Facial Hair?
A few years back I decided to grow a beard. I wanted a real ZZ Top kind of beard.
Day 1. Everything fine
Day 2. Everything still fine
Day 3. Still going good
Day 4. Why is my face so damn itchy?
Day 5. I have to shave this growth off so I can see why my face is so itchy.
for those of you who like science fiction - what is your favourite science fiction book, or indeed film?
The Stainless Steel Rat series by Harry Harrison
Dr. Who as a TV series.
i have some genuine questions for you pmj which i hope you will take the time to answer;
i was brought up as a witness and left over a decade ago; i have always struggled with these points and hope you can provide an explanation.
the main answer to the questions in relation to wickedness being permitted is that jehovah is proving satan to be a liar (in other words to prove a point).
""The point I was trying to make is that God had the capacity to create us as perfect so why didnt he? Granted Adam botched it up but without satan around it wouldve worked...or would it? Simply start again, nobody wouldve been the wiser. Much less suffering surely .""
What of the other angels that witnessed and understood Satan's challenge? Would you have God destroy those loyal angels so that no one would be the wiser?
Would destroying Satan, Adam, and Eve have solved the problem? Would you have God brain wash the angels so that none of them would remember Satan and the issues raised?
""Also too you mention that Adam brought about those conditions, whilst in part that might be true but the ultimate conditions i.e the fact that Satan existed at this point is down to a much higher source who ultimately must be to blame.""
Sorry but if you want to blame God for Satan's action, I have to strongly disagree. Satan is responsible for Satan's actions.
i will be posting contents of the book "watchtower and the masons" by fritz springmeier.
this is an extremely rare book that is currently out of print.
the information contained here is extremely important in determining what this organization is all about.
This site contains Russell's own words on Masonry.
To the best of my knowledge this site has no relationship with JW's.
i have some genuine questions for you pmj which i hope you will take the time to answer;
i was brought up as a witness and left over a decade ago; i have always struggled with these points and hope you can provide an explanation.
the main answer to the questions in relation to wickedness being permitted is that jehovah is proving satan to be a liar (in other words to prove a point).
Of those living at the time of Armageddon, only Jehovah's Witnesses will be saved] {WT Feb 15 1979 30}Are you sure of your source here? No such statement appears on the CD. Contents
? w79 2/15 p. 30 God’s Requirement that His Work Be Done "Just So"
? w79 2/15 p. 30 Why Offerings of Honey Were Unacceptable
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w79 2/15 p. 30 God’s Requirement that His Work Be Done "Just So" ***[Top of page 30]
by God’s law. Now the bringing of the ark proved to be truly a time of great rejoicing, causing King David to commemorate the occasion by a psalm in which he exulted: "Jehovah himself has become king!"—1 Chron. 15:15, 16; 16:1-37.
Good King David had also to learn that while it was a fine thing to bring Jehovah’s ark of the covenant to Jerusalem, to please God it had to be done "just as Moses had commanded by Jehovah’s word." In fact, David himself admitted as much, saying: "You [Levites] must bring the ark of Jehovah the God of Israel up to the place that I have prepared for it. Because at the first time you did not, Jehovah our God broke through against us, for we did not search after him according to the custom."—1 Chron. 15:12, 13, 15.
DOING
JEHOVAH’S WORK "JUST SO" IN OUR DAYGod’s Word shows that he has ever had just one visible agency directing his work on earth. At the time of the Deluge it was Noah. In later years it was the nation of Israel; he recognized it alone. (Amos 3:2) That is why King Solomon asked Jehovah God to hear the foreigner that prayed toward his house. (1 Ki. 8:41-43) When the Son of God came to earth he became the sole agency that his Father used and all had to recognize that fact. (Matt. 12:30; John 14:6) With the outpouring of God’s spirit upon the waiting disciples in Jerusalem a "faithful and discreet slave" class came into being. This body of Christ’s disciples was used by Jehovah to provide spiritual food, and to give direction to the work that Jesus commanded his disciples to do.—Matt. 24:45-47; Acts 2:1-42.
Whom today is Jehovah God using to carry out his work in the earth? It must be a group of people who follow closely in Jesus’ footsteps as to being faithful witnesses of God (Rev. 3:14); as respects preaching the good news of God’s kingdom (Matt. 4:17); as respects accepting God’s Word as truth and being familiar with it and using it (Matt. 4:4, 7, 10; John 17:17); as respects keeping separate from the world (John 15:18, 19; 17:16); and as respects their having self-sacrificing love among themselves. (John 13:34, 35) The facts show that it is the Christian witnesses of Jehovah alone who, in all these respects, imitate Jesus Christ. In fact, they have been organized for the very purpose of carrying on the work that Jesus began, namely, preaching the good news of God’s kingdom and making disciples. They do "just so," in obedience to Jesus’ instruction at Matthew 24:14 and 28:19. They work conscientiously in Kingdom activity.
Being conscientious in everything that relates to God’s work requires much of Christians. But it is worth it. It is rewarding. First of all, it means being pleasing to one’s heavenly Father, Jehovah God. It means being able to do the most good for others. And it also means benefiting ourselves most, and that in every way, even as the Scriptures make clear: "He that sows bountifully will also reap bountifully."—2 Cor. 9:6.
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w79 2/15 p. 30 Why Offerings of Honey Were Unacceptable ***Why
Offerings of Honey Were UnacceptableGod’s law to Israel stated: "You must make no sour dough and no honey at all smoke as an offering made by fire to Jehovah." (Lev. 2:11) The particular honey referred to is evidently the syrup of fruits, since such honey, not bees’ honey, could be spoken of as being firstfruits. (Lev. 2:12; 2 Chron. 31:5) The honey of fruits could ferment and, therefore, was rightly prohibited as an offering upon the altar.
i have some genuine questions for you pmj which i hope you will take the time to answer;
i was brought up as a witness and left over a decade ago; i have always struggled with these points and hope you can provide an explanation.
the main answer to the questions in relation to wickedness being permitted is that jehovah is proving satan to be a liar (in other words to prove a point).
I'm not PMJ but here is what I remember.
The main answer to the questions in relation to wickedness being permitted is that Jehovah is proving Satan to be a liar (in other words to prove a point). Do you accept that this is the case?
No. From what I can pull together it is not to prove Satan a liar. It is because Satan challenged Jehovah's right to rule.
If so why should Jehovah (the god of all armies) have to prove any point to someone (Satan) whose opinion shouldnt matter?
The explanation is to demonstrate once and for all Jehovah's right to rule. Man has been given time to demonstrate the ability to rule. How good of a job has he done?
Why should Jehovah have to sacrifice his son because of the actions of a so called rebellious spirit?
I believe that that sacrifice is to redeem MANKIND not Satan
Wouldnt the most loving thing to do (if this explanation has any truth in it) be to destroy Satan earlier and therefore dispense with the need for a ransom sacrifice?
As above, that sacrifice was needed to redeem mankind. It has nothing to do with Satan
When would it be loving for a father to subject his creation (children) to wickedness (as opposed to perfection) when he had a choice in the matter, just to prove a point?
Don't see your point here. Are you suggesting that God just automatically makes us perfect? For the record, Adam brought the conditions upon his offspring not God. Adam lost a perfect life. What else would equal what Adam lost?
If Jehovah was so sure of the outcome why would he even entertain Satans' challenge?
If someone makes an issue over something you have said or done, in front of others, how do you answer it? Yes God could have just wiped Satan out but would it ANSWER Satan's challenge?
Do you think Jehovah doubted his own creation in this case?
No.
You have said that God will soon destroy all wicked people...define wicked?
Wicked defined as per Bible.
Why must all non JWs be destroyed? Surely JWs are not the only good god fearing people on earth? (and to be honest most of those JWs arent either)
Who will be destroyed and who will not isn't ours to call. I'm glad it's not up to me.
You see if we believe all we are led to believe in relation to why God permits wickedness this does open up a whole spectrum of questions and not one of them has been answered by a Jehovahs Witness to any suitable degree.
I would have to disagree. The answers I was given many years ago made perfect sense then.
this is the watchtower for april 1, 2006, page 9.. 'parents be a fine example for your children.'.
'....of course, children are children, and some are prone to be contrary, even wayward.
(genesis 8:21) what can parents do?
Hey, I'm sorry you feel like I attacked you or your story. I did nothing of the sort,however. I merely presented my observations which have just as much relevance as your's do. Your story does not automatically make mine wrong.
Culturally encouraged abuse? I don't think so!
Culturally encouraged DISCIPLINE? Well here in the U.S. spanking certainly was openly condoned by the general population up to about 25 years or so. I can certainly remember kids in the neighborhood telling me how their mom or dad gave them a good smack on the ass. I received a couple myself. I deserved them. But abuse? Nope.
it is snowing like crazy where i live and it common for churches and other places of worship to close for the safety of members.
they usally alert folk on the morning news.
sooooooooooo.
"" Why were "Kingdom Halls" and "Churchs and Temples" listed acordingly on particullar station?""
Maybe for the same reason that Kingdom Halls are listed under "Churches" in the phone book.
Seriously, you would have to ask the station as to why.
last saturday my brother in law answered his door to a man that asked " are you worried about the environment and pollution"?
my brother in law said" yes i am " .
as they chatted for a few moments ,the man at the door reached into his briefcase case and pulled out his bible.
I don't think it's a "NEW" tactic as I can remember parts encouraging engaging householder with "current event" type thing. It goes WAY, WAY back.
