i always had to pioneer and it sucked... in mississippi it was 100 degrees and very very humid.
it was like a greenhouse.
we would get all dressed up and just pour sweat.
How sad. What a shame you suffered so.
Now I too grew up in a Witness family but I never had to suffer like you said you did. We played baseball, even little league baseball. Family outings like picnics, trips to amusement parks (Kennywood near Pittsburg was/is a good one), museums. We had summer passes to the community swimming pool, just the thing for a hot summer afternoon.
Yes we did field service as well.
http://www.joshhosler.biz/numberoneinhistory/selectmonth.htm.
on the day i was born, this song was #1 .
"theme from 'a summer place'" by percy faith .
"Young Love" by Tab Hunter. Which leads to the question, who the hell is Tab Hunter?
here is the link.
enjoy.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eh2c9dgxq.
"Instead of dealing with what the Society's men do, he attacks the "apostate"."
I did no such thing. I questioned the validity of the video. I did so with good reason.
I have placed a few calls to Brooklyn, I have the phone number there. So if the video would have given the number as it was 'dialed' I could have verified it for myself.
I have had calls transferred to Patterson on several occasions. They were nevered answered "Patterson operator"
As for the settlements, all I have seen is what has been presented on forums like this. None of the area papers have carried this story. What difference does it make if these happened?
As my attorney told be regarding settling out of court, in the BEST settlement neither side is happy, neither side gets everything they want.
What was gained? A few people are going to get some money.
Were Jehovah's Witnesses found guilty of something? No.
Were Jehovah's Witnesses found to be responsible for something? No
Were Jehovah's Witnesses found to be at fault for something? No
So what was really gained?
here is the link.
enjoy.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eh2c9dgxq.
"Beep Beep is a WT. defender"
Well if you want to label me such that's your privilege. I guess names, labels and titles are important for some.
here is the link.
enjoy.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eh2c9dgxq.
"Turn up your speakers when he starts dialing at 3:18. I don't know what you're talking about, I can hear them just fine. "
I listened to this twice, with two different computers one with broadband, one with dialup yesterday with the same results.
Speakers were up loud enough.
here is the link.
enjoy.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eh2c9dgxq.
"why do you think the person on the phone could not comment on the subject? "
Well I could think of several reasons, such as he's not qualified to respond or that there is someone who is assigned the responsibility to respond to such questions.
Sort of like asking an attorney's assistant to comment on a case.
Was anyone troubled by the facts that A. The telephone, on speaker, made no sound as the number was dialed?
I have a Speakerphone. The tones come through when you dial loud and clear when dialing.
B. That the other party was NEVER notified that the phone call was being recorded? I believe this just may be illegal and is certainly unethical
What's to prevent people from drawing the conclusion that this was all faked? I mean he didn't even give the phone number as he dialed to verify. I question the whole thing.
i have heard on this discussion board numerous rules that apply to upcoming a$$emblies.
some are designed to stop people from meeting the opposite sex; others, to make sure everyone is always ready to recruit new members into the scam.
i heard that some km inserts have been urging those whose congregation has cleaning assignments to sit in the section that they are assigned to clean.
(1) Sitting together with your congregation. I heard that some KM inserts have been urging those whose congregation has cleaning assignments to sit in the section that they are assigned to clean. This makes meeting the opposite sex more difficult, and it makes it harder for someone to fake making the a$$emblies by showing up for the first morning and then walking out. It also makes the a$$emblies blur in with each other, since you are not going to meet anyone special at any of them.
This is false. There is no such 'requirement'. Yes sections are assigned for cleaning and some CHOOSE to sit there.I don't see how it makes meeting the opposite sex difficult.
When the food arrangements were changed THAT made meeting the opposite sex more difficult. You could no longer work with them at food sites. That was a bummer.
Since there is no requirement to sit together faking attendence isn't affected.
(2) Staying dressed up after the a$$embly is dismissed. You are supposed to go to McDonald's dressed up and with your name badges on. Supposedly, this is another form of advertising for your MLM religion.
This has been suggested for YEARS. Nothing new.
(3) The One Towel Rule. Using only one towel to dry your hands might save them money. However, the towels are sized for children's hands to prevent wasting an adult sized towel on a child. Men's hands are generally larger, and it is going to take more than one towel to fully dry them. It also takes extra towels to clean up the mess after you wash your hands.
Unknown to me. I've never heard of such a 'rule'.
(4) Staying in the building for lunch. This is so people won't take off after the morning session and not come back, perhaps using the remaining time to explore the city and its surroundings. It also limits what you can eat for lunch, since most motels lack refrigerators.
If you want to meet the opposite sex by all means stay at the site. By the way it doesn't mean stay INSIDE.
(5) Not using vending machines within the facilities. I can understand not allowing people to use the cigarette machines, since no one is supposed to smoke and people are there that are bothered by smoke. However, these are not issues for candy. Not allowing children to have any candy is rather tough, since there is no fun for them, and they are going to get restless and act up after sitting there for hours at a time. I don't think it's fair to expect children to sit there for no reward, since they are now going to have to stay in that suit once the program dismisses.
Since I haven't been to a convention site that had vending machines I have no answer for this one.
However since children can get rather out of hand with a lot of sugar why make it difficult for them
(6) Many a$$embly Hells have other rules. There are rules against candy (I can see for gum, since gum is extremely difficult to clean up and gets stuck on the floor and the seats. But candy?). They have rules against ink pens in some A$$embly Hells, since they can mark the seats. All of them have rules against running and playing, which are designed to p*&^ off the children. They have rules against using flash bulbs (who would need them anyway, with today's digital cameras). Many have rules against videotaping part or all the a$$emblies, especially now that one could put the whole drama up on YouTube or other video sharing program. You cannot wear headphones in the a$$embly Hells unless they have special arrangements for deaf people to wear them (then you put in a MP3 player or mini disc player in place of the tuner) and playing with the Game Boy during the a$$embly. Some even ban these devices during intermissions!
Ink pens banned? I don't believe so. Flashbulbs can be distracting. Video taping banned? I can't see that happening either. There are too many who cannot make it to the convention who NEED such to be able to hear and see the program.
Since many conventions and circuit asssembly halls now have arrangements to broadcast the program on FM headphone ban is rather silly.
Sorry but most of your information is just plain wrong.
Been there done that.
we all know there is no mention of cats in the bible...not one....but another thing that's weird is that there is no reference to any people in the old testament taking their kids down to the beach to make sandcastles and stuff...why?
"we all know there is no mention of cats in the bible...not one"
Excuse me but what about lions? They are cats, big cats granted, but cats nonetheless
here is the link.
enjoy.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eh2c9dgxq.
"Amazing how they try to cover up!!"
Okay I must have missed the attempt to cover up anything
All I heard was someone stating that he could not comment on the subject.
when i first found this site i was overwhelmed by the diversity - jw's are not accustomed to diverse ideas and thought.. i was obligated by the vast volume of information that condemns the religion i had practiced for 4 decades - jw's are not accustomed to facts and logical argumentation that defies the official position[s], to begin forming my own opinions from what i saw here.. i was speechless when i read the similar posts about things that i could have written, things that bothered me for the longest time.. i was overjoyed to realize that i was not alone in the world in my decision to leave the religion.
yet - if what you had/have/want is the truth, nothing here is a danger to that.
if it is - then it was never truth to begin with.
To All Lurkers - Feel the LOVE........
Porvided you don't have an opinion different from the majority here. Then you better be prepared to be blasted.
Been there, done that.
