in the course of our wasted time in the org we have all expierenced/ suffered through the ten minute closing prayers at assemblies/conventions.
so many times there have been others that just couldn't escape our attention.
humble wanna be's, pious glorified one's, and just out and out condemnatory oratories to the flock.
There was one elder that would pray and end his prayer so funny. I laughed everytime. It is really hard to type out how he said it but he would say Jesus real long, Jeeeeesus, then he would same "name" a little less long and then amen real clipped. There were those stinking long prayers and we would time them. My brother in law would constantly say, Father this and that, Father, Father. He would say it probably ten to twenty times in a prayer. It drove me crazy.
sheri
just because you won't feel guilt the way you used to?.................................oompa
Well, the other day I actually puffed on a cigar. It tasted awful. And, I really like to say shit.
Yes, there are things that I have done but only the organization would consider it wrong.
Sheri
i am new here and i have been reading a lot of stuff on this board.
my parent's are both jws, i am still active and still believe i have the truth.
i consider myself a moral person.
I still say that there seems to be a lot of hate towards this religion, and yeah, I don't get it.
Multi
Have you ever been in love? I know that you are only 19 but have you loved someone so much that you would give your life for that person? Did you eat, drink and live for that person? Believe that they loved you in return? If you have, now imagine that that person cheated on you, told lies about you, kicked you, raped you, turned your friends and family against you, took away your ability to get a job, made you go to prison, maybe even by their lies they made one of your beloved family members die. Now, does your heart ache with pain? Do you still love that person?
I have always been told that there is a thin line between love and hate. Most everyone on here at one time believed and loved in some way or another that religion. I, for one, was raised in it, quite school at sixteen and pioneered for years, married a pioneer ministerial servant, and even considered missionary work with my husband, I loved that place. Then the scales started lifting from our eyes and we saw the lies. We saw that we were cheated on, raped, used for their purpose and then cast aside. So, the love that we had was turned to hate. Just the same as if the love of your life turned on you and did all the things that JWs did to the majority of us on here. We have all lost close friends, family, jobs and experienced a lot of pain because of being a JW and that is just scratching the surface of what has been taken from us. If you stay on here and read the stories, your humanity will make you start to question such a place.
Please go back and read AK-Jeff's post on this thread, he put it so well.
On the other points of discussion on here and in defense of myself - It pains me too much to think of the hurt that people are going through everyday. I can't even watch the news anymore because it makes me break down and cry. The last time I watched the news there was a story of man that thought his little girl had a demon in her and beat her to death to get the demon out. I cried and put my blinders back on and try to pretend that those things don't really happen. You laugh at things so that you can pretend that maybe it didn't really happen. It might seem crass but that is how some deal with it.
Well, I hope you continue to read here and learn more about the JWs and get out before it hurts you too badly.
Sheri
i'm a baptized member considered ''inactive.
'' i don't hand in ''service reports'',attend maybe 3 meetings a month,ain't signed up for the ministry school and will never attend any convention or the ''book study.
'' always make the ''memorial.
Wow, so many interesting stories.
I left in August 2005. Stopped cold turkey. Went to the bookstudy, commented, got in the car, went home and told my husband that that was the last meeting I would ever go to. We had an elder stop by once six months later. He had been riding his motorcycle and decided to stop by. We told him why we left, UN association, he called us apostates and since that time no one speaks to us. Turns the other way when they see us coming. The rumor is that we are apostate. We would like to DA but my husband still has family in. So just faded at this point. Celebrated christmas this year (lights and all) and expected some sort of backlash but nothing. We must be off of the radar.
Sheri
well, first off, to you whom suggested magnesium to me, thank you (i think) .
my headaches have been a constant source of misery for me since my last desperate post regarding them.
but i did start on the magnesium treatment.
Vivamus
I feel your pain and wouldn't wish migraines on my worst enemy. You sound like your migraines are more severe than mine but I thought that I would share one of my treatments with you. Like you mentioned I seem to be forewarned that a migraine is coming but sometimes I don't get the warning. So, if it gets beyond a certain point this is what I do: Get in the shower and turn the water to as warm as you can handle it. Relax in the warmth, then turn the water over to cold. Stand in it and shiver for as long as you can handle and then turn it back to warm. I do this five or six times in a row. It is deeply relaxing and seems to take the edge off of the migraine, sometimes to the point that I don't have to go to bed to sleep it off. I know that this sounds rather unenjoyable but it really seems to do the trick and is well worth the momentary discomfort.
I hope that the magnesium treatments lessen your migraines.
Good luck,
Sheri
attorney kerry louderback-wood will be interviewed on radio, saturday, january 26th at 4 p.m. pst.
it will be a 17-minute interview on the sean leslie show.
sean's program is on 3-5 p.m. saturday.
Dear Barbara:
Thank you for the heads up. I listened to the archive and it was really great. Mrs. Louderback really did a great job. It is really worth the time to listen.
Thank you again,
Sheri
hi brant,.
i don't want to send a pm because i want all the newbies to benefit from your great work.. your letters to the wbts re the un scandal, were excellent and should be read by all.
unfortunately the link in the thread you posted in '06 has died.
Hey Pop,
Repost your letters already.
Love you
Sheri
after discovering what you have about the watchtower society would you ever consider going back to the jw's?
Only if I lost all self respect and had an extreme desire to commit suicide.
I guess that would be a "HELL NO".
Sheri
hi everyone.
this is my first entry but i just wanted to know if any of you been able to convince your friends to come out of the "truth" and realize the society for what it really is?
Welcome uhoh08!!!
No, haven't been fortunate enough to convince anyone to leave. However, my parents are getting halfway decent at it. They have helped a couple of people.
Sheri
please share your personal experiences on the evil of family seperation by governments, religions, courts, spouses.... make your outrage known!.
I am seperated from my little brother. We haven't seen him or spoken with him in almost three years. Every once in awhile I will have a dream about him and wake up crying but fortunately it seems to only reside in my subconscious. He has used the religion as an excuse not to speak to us but I know that there is something deeper there. Some sort of deep resentment towards us that only he knows. It seems that he has been embarrassed by our family for years. Prior to us ever leaving the organization. I don't know. I still love him though and told him so the last time I saw him. It hurts my parents more than me. I know my mom keeps thinking that eventually he will change his mind and call or something but the longer it goes the more we think it might not happen.
We love you Thad.
Sheri
