I think it is because since we stopped going to meetings and out in service we have all this free time on our hands.
....... which could be why they don't want you to have free time on your hands!!! willow
far too many times i have heard the accusation that all x-jws want to do is tear down the wts.
we scrounge around digging up every piece of information that we can that will put the wts in a bad light.
"they" being those who seek to defend the wts and forget the past because ... well it is the past and there is so much "new light".
I think it is because since we stopped going to meetings and out in service we have all this free time on our hands.
....... which could be why they don't want you to have free time on your hands!!! willow
i wonder if its possible to formally disfellowship schizm, scholar and the other dub apologists?.
what if we unanimously decided that it was time to shun them and not respond to one word they have to say?.
meagan
BlackSwan:
Would that mean you agree with the practices of DISFELLOWSHPPING and SHUNNING?
willow
yes i have made it to a jedi master!
anyway, after 1000 posts it is good to look back, at the time i first came here, and about the information that i found on the board.. when i first entered the board i started posting right away, without reading much first.
this was kind of stupid, because i assumed that most of the people here were active 'faithfull' jw's, with maybe some apostates.
I think there are many reaching out (R&F and leadership) and yes, we should feel sorry them and forgive them --and be there for them when they need understanding and support. Feeling and expressing hatred and anger is part of seeking help and healing. Harboring the same kind of anger and hostility only makes it more difficult to move ahead and stalls the healing process.
Danny you should throw yourself a party in celebration of your 1000 posts!!!!
willow
manipulation is using techniques and ploys to coerce someone into something that serves your needs first.
convincing is using valid reasons and facts to persuade another to something you believe serves their needs first.
manipulation is conducted in a sneaky, secretive manner;
convincing is conducted in an honest, direct manner.
May I ask, why do you ask?
willow
we all started off as happy witnesses, except for those dragged into this religion by force as kids.. in my case, i found that there were way too many meetings.
then seeing the new system being constantly pushed back, and finally when i saw a lack of true love in the congregation.
and when they hinted that probably there wouldn't be any sex and marriage for the resurrected ones.
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yet another friend's marriage has broken down(5th), this one i did not predict at all.
it came as a shock to me.
they got married after 10 years of living together so it's not like they didn't know each other.
I'd be suicidal if I were married to any of them.
I won't be getting married again, neither will I live with anyone again. Too much trouble.
So I take it you two might vote "no" on the multiple spouse question??? LOL
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/106025/1.ashx
I don't think there are any "fairy tale" marriages. Maybe that's what many expect, then can't handle the reality.
I think many couples give up to easily and quickly.
But I still prefer not to be married ... don't see a lot of great benefits in it at this point.
willow
we all started off as happy witnesses, except for those dragged into this religion by force as kids.. in my case, i found that there were way too many meetings.
then seeing the new system being constantly pushed back, and finally when i saw a lack of true love in the congregation.
and when they hinted that probably there wouldn't be any sex and marriage for the resurrected ones.
I haven't lost the joy of serving Jehovah, but won't do it through a group of cruel self-serving hypocrites. My loyalty will lie with Jehovah until HE proves me wrong, and I'll try to serve Him in productive and joyful ways -- which don't include putting in appearances at meetings and being judged by men who neither know nor care about my heart.
willow
this has probably by far the hardest adjustment my husband and myself have had to make.
sometimes we feel like we just dont really belong anywhere.
sometimes we still act and think like jw s even though we are getting together a nice network of new friends.. my question is, does it get easier with time to feel like you belong somewhere?.
They don't judge me adversely or act like I'm afflicted with an infectious disease. However, they treat me as an equal and that goes a long way in the healing process.
It must have felt good to be respected for what you said --
and not dragged into the back room or parking lot for a verbal beating.
willow
i was just thinking - since i have been fading and not at meetings, i have gotten many, many phone calls.
i have gotten many comments.
it occurred to me that every time i hear something from a witness, it has to do with trying to get me involved in an activity.
They are not really interested in you as a person, but rather as a fellow slave. The mission is not your personal happiness, the mission is to bring you back to the fold. They believe what they're doing is right. It's just that you've stepped back and view it differently now. You see more than the four corners of their box.
willow
this has probably by far the hardest adjustment my husband and myself have had to make.
sometimes we feel like we just dont really belong anywhere.
sometimes we still act and think like jw s even though we are getting together a nice network of new friends.. my question is, does it get easier with time to feel like you belong somewhere?.
I guess with being a witness for so long it may just take time to fell like we fit in.
The difference for all of you to discover is that now you can be your true selves, you don't have to fit a certain mold or follow specific behavior patterns to be part of this society. But you can't change over night, be patient, let the changes happen -- and enjoy the process. This is a society you fit into just by being here. Now you have the freedom to find your own place within this society.
Work on relaxing your minds so they will open to the world around you. Watch and listen to everything and everyone as a way to learn, let everything flow in. Gradually you'll find what and who interests and attracts you. You get to make the choices now!
You will find many of us raised in the world to be tolerant and forgiving and loving. You will find many who will help you, without judging you, along the way. Remember, you are allowed to make honest mistakes now, it's simply viewed as a vital part of learning!
I can only imagine how difficult this transition must be for you all (it's difficult enough coming from the world and trying to "fit in" to the JW society!). You've been raised with strict rules and others to make sure you follow them. It will be scary, you will make mistakes, others will still hurt you. But the joys can help you past the fear and will outweigh the hurt. Welcome to the world. It's a beautiful place to be!
with love, willow