Timothy Campbell's Beyond JW website
Same here! Loved it! It was very non-threatening.
i remember doing a search on jw's and ending up on www.watchtowerinformationservice.org.
which led me to www.freeminds.org.
and then it led me here..
Timothy Campbell's Beyond JW website
Same here! Loved it! It was very non-threatening.
i remember when i was new in the "troof", i was walking in a mall and a jw window washer saw me, and asked, "what are you doing here"?.
yeah, he had a good reason to be at the mall, cause he was washing windows, but i had no business there.... i guess he thought that i was being seduced by material stuff.... and i was stupid enough, not to tell him, mind your own business fu**er....
When I was a teenager I told my mom that I didn't want to be a witness anymore. Her quote:
"Sometimes I feel the same way, but there's nothing else out there!"
i've tried and i've tried now i need help, how do you answer:.
jws who think it's fantastic that jeh is providing this new light all the time, i say about the rev book amongst other things and they just think it's a sign they are in the right religon coz '''what other religon would admit it's faults?
'' doesnt matter they been studing wrong light last time!!.
jws who think it's fantastic that jeh is providing this new light all the time, i say about the rev book amongst other things and they just think it's a sign they are in the right religon coz '''what other religon would admit it's faults?''
There are dozens of examples of their history where they were wrong, and no, they admit none of it. They either deny it, or they provide some lame excuse to explain it.
Read 'Crisis of Conscience'. I felt guilty reading it for about the first two chapters. After that, I just felt angry I was actually raised in an organization like that.
has anyone ever posted about the tons of time magazine articles about the jws?
time has been around forever and has been a 'witness' (pardon the pun) to much of their history .. clear back to the 1930s.
go to the time website and search for yourself!
Okay, Renee, if you do it, I'll try too and see what happens...
I would love to show these to my family! The trick is to either send them anonymously or come up with some way to say ... look what I found! I think they would read them because they are not 'apostate' material, but they might not if they suspect I have an ulterior motive. Very tricky!
I am in the process of searching old newspapers for early watchtower references. If I find anything juicy, I'll let y'all know!
has anyone ever posted about the tons of time magazine articles about the jws?
time has been around forever and has been a 'witness' (pardon the pun) to much of their history .. clear back to the 1930s.
go to the time website and search for yourself!
These are very cool, thanks for the posts... and may I say I love your nod to Maurice Sendak, dear Wild_Thing!!!
Baba
You're welcome ... and thank you! I'm a fan of the book!
i know of jws that celebrate "family day" at this time of year.
i have asked these jw about where they got the term "family day" was it from the watchtower?
they seem to deny the watchtower had ever mentioned "family day", but i can sense they are trying to hide something here.
My JW family has "Family Day" every year (and my bil is an elder, too). I still show up for it. The date is different every year ... usually whenever everyone ends up with enough money for presents. Funny thing is ... we never did this when I was growing up. We started doing it when my neice and nephew were little ... about 10 years ago. We would all get together and eat dinner and give wrapped presents to the kids. About 3 years ago, I talked them into doing our own version of secret santa ... we draw names and buy a present for one of the adults. I think it is hilarious that they justify doing it, but I just joke about it being their "festivus". Every year, I threaten to put up an aluminum pole. (only Seinfeld fans will get the reference). I think its good for the kids ... I don't how they twist their reasoning to justify it.
has anyone ever posted about the tons of time magazine articles about the jws?
time has been around forever and has been a 'witness' (pardon the pun) to much of their history .. clear back to the 1930s.
go to the time website and search for yourself!
I found this footnote interesting, since as far as I know Rutherford was a Lawyer who served as a judge for a week or two, but was not really a judge, why would it say here that he served as a circuit judge for 14 years? If any of you know, please share this with us. Thanks for posting these Time magazine articles, I am sharing them with a few active JW's I know, since the source of the info is "non-Apostate" they will read it.
He was for 14 years a circuit judge in Missouri; "consecrated myself to the Lord" in 1906. He is now 58 years old.
IC
I think it is pretty common, even today, for reporters to take information like that at face value. I am sure if Rutherford told him that, he printed it with the presumption that it was true without verifying it. I would be interested to know what can be dug up on his history here in Missouri.
i found a reference to a magazine called our hope from the 1920s and it reads just like early watchtower mags.
anybody heard of this?
if you do, maybe you know who dr. arno clemens gaebelein is?
Wow! Thanks to both of you for your help. I guess new cult leaders were a dime a dozen back then. What made me wonder is when I was looking up old TIME magazine articles, I found an article about him printed in 1927. They quoted him and then the attatched a footnote:
"One of the first things Christ will do upon his return will be to put Satan literally into the bottomless pit, and then do away with all sickness, all airplanes and all wars. For those Christians who are still alive there will be no death."*
* "Millions now living will never die" is the hope of International Bible Students (TIME, Aug. 1).
i found a reference to a magazine called our hope from the 1920s and it reads just like early watchtower mags.
anybody heard of this?
if you do, maybe you know who dr. arno clemens gaebelein is?
I found a reference to a magazine called Our Hope from the 1920s and it reads just like early Watchtower mags. Anybody heard of this?
If you do, maybe you know who Dr. Arno Clemens Gaebelein is? He was supposedly the editor of Our Hope.
Were either this publication or person connected to the "International Bible Students"?
Thanks!
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so where did god live before he'd created the heavens?.
What came first ... the chicken or the egg?
Did God create the Earth or did Earth create God?