I have seen that documentary you mentioned, The God Who Wasn't There. It's very good! A little boring in parts, but still very interesting!
Wild_Thing
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Article on Origins of Xristianity I Wrote REALLY UPSET Local Christians
by Seeker4 ini had an assignment to write a bunch of holiday articles that would be shared by all the various papers owned by the guy who owns the paper i'm the editor of.
after i'd had enough with the usual holiday stuff, i decided to get a little adventerous and expanded one in the series to include, not just the origins of christmas foods, but also some ideas i've been reading and watching about the origins of the chrisitain religion itself.. this is a link to the article, which ran a few weeks ago: .
http://www.messagefortheweek.com/main.asp?sectionid=1&subsectionid=20&articleid=849.
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What contributes to a "climate of fear" in the congregation?
by truthseeker ini was thinking about how much fear there is among jehovah's witnesses in relating to each other.. if you could read the private thoughts of jw's, you'd probably be surprised at the level of fear they have of each other.. this fear is not likely to be the morbid kind of fear, but the other kind of fear that concerns "what will people think of me?".
you watched a movie at the weekend, it was rated pg, but you are afraid to tell your friends that you went to see it.. you were only able to report 4 hours of field service that month, but you are afraid to report this number so you tweak it.. you missed several meetings due to sickness, you still feel unwell, but you fear what the congregation may think so you force yourself to go.. you went on a weekend getaway, but you are afraid to tell the friends why you were missing that weekend in case they think you put kingdom interests last.. you watched a good book, but you are afraid to talk about it to your friends because they might be stumbled.. you heard of someone who got disfellowshipped but you are afraid to ask what happened.. you were unable to take friday off for the convention, but you fear what will be said about you.. you did not auxiliary pioneer during the memorial season and you are afraid people will think of you as spiritually weak.. .
not everyone will let these things bother them, but many do.. this climate of fear and worry about what the congregation may or may not think does not contribute to a loving atmosphere.. what other things can you think of that contribute to a climate of fear?.
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Wild_Thing
Witnesses are all about appearance. It keeps them in a constant state of fear. It's like they think that the witness who LOOKS the best will survive armageddon. The religion makes for an artificial apperance for a person with artificial thoughts.
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1909 News article - Russell's womanizing: "No one woman can have it all"
by Wild_Thing inso ... who lives in pittsburgh and is willing to go dig up some archives.
i would love to see original scans of newspaper articles about his divorce.
here is one from 3 years after the divorce.
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Wild_Thing
So ... who lives in Pittsburgh and is willing to go dig up some archives. I would love to see original scans of newspaper articles about his divorce. Here is one from 3 years after the divorce.
I am wondering what you all think about this? Do you think Russell was another "David Koresh" with multiple "spiritual brides" or do you think he was really celibate? I tend to lean toward the former, but it is, of course, pure speculation. His comments sound perverse and creepy to me.
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A "Stumbling" Question
by changtech ini posted a few months ago, explaining how my long-time boyfriend, who is a jw, was not willing to compromise with my beliefs and lifestyle.. anyways, we have since broken up, but are still good friends.
he continues to insist that i start another bible study, but i tell him, i won't because he hasn't answered many of my questions, which include 1914, the 144,000, etc.
i also said i want these questions answered from outside sources besides the wt.. i've tried to come up with ways to get him to understand his religion isn't the truth, but i don't think it is possible, as i'm sure many of you understand.. anyways, i asked him this question the other day:.
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Wild_Thing
Didn't you already post this? Or was that someone else?
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"In lieu of flowers, please donate to the World Wide Work of JW's"
by Wild_Thing inin lieu of flowers, donations made to the world wide work of jehovah's witnesses would be appreciated by the family.. anybody ever seen a witness family do this before?
i saw it in an obit in a newspaper online and it made me sick!
most people ask for donations to non-profit organizations that help fight disease like cancer, etc.
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Wild_Thing
Yeah, I am thinking it must be something regional because I did not see anything about it in the Charitable Planning brochure. They had everything else in there! But not anything about donations in lieu of flowers at funerals.
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Name Some JW "Double Standards"
by minimus inhere's one: you can't give blood but you can take a blood fraction (which someone else has to give).
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Wild_Thing
You should examine your own religion and "make sure of all things" .... wait ... did you say you were already a member of our "loving flock"??? Nevermind!
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Have any of you seen the movie " The Nativity"?
by Lady Liberty inhello everyone, and "merry christmas!!".
was wanting to go see this movie, and was wondering if any of you have already seen it and what you thought of it??.
sincerely,.
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Wild_Thing
I don't like to go see movies where the plot is too predictable. Where's the suspense?
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Special Christmas Day Radio Show (With Music) Presented by the Watchtower!
by Wild_Thing infrom a 1924 newspaper.
boy, i would love to be able to have an audio file of this.
what a hoot!.
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Wild_Thing
Even if it is poor quality, it would be worth it to hear the "Judge" introduce the Watchtower String Quartette playing O Holy Night!
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Why I'm mad at god.
by Abandoned inthe past couple of days, i've been posting a lot about how disappointed and even disgusted i am with god and how he runs his universe.
i guess that probably offends some people.
i don't intend to make people feel bad, but here's what's been going on in my life lately:.
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Wild_Thing
I'm sorry things are so rotten right now. It does no good to blame to god, though. Being mad at god is like being mad at Santa Claus. They are the realm of reality. I can sympathize, though. I went through a period of being mad at god, too. It did me no good, though. It didn't make me feel better, and it didn't fix it.
It always irritated me when I heard people say that god helped them or hurt them. It made no sense to me. If a kid is dying of cancer, they pray to god and want other people to pray to god to save her. If she survives the cancer, well then they say it was god that did it! Their prayers were answered! But what about little Susie Bobo on the next street who died of cancer? How come god let her die? It is ridiculous to think some invisible imaginary person has that much power over us.
Shit happens ... that's just life. All we can do is learn from our mistakes when possible, and when not possible, try to change our reaction to it. I know this sounds sorta metaphysical, but when I encounter a problem (or many), it helps me to tell myself that this is just an oppotunity for me to grow as a person and maybe become a little wiser. I know ... it sounds corny. But it works for me!
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Should I get an iPod? What do you use yours for?
by Elsewhere inlet me start by saying that i am not a music fan.
i hardly ever listen to music and almost never buy cd's and my car's stereo is almost always set to npr or some other news station.
i don't even have a stereo system at home... simply because i would never use it.. however, i've been hearing more and more about the ipod devices.
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Wild_Thing
Elsewhere, if you like NPR, you should check out the podcasts available on iTunes. They're free and you can listen to them at your convenience.