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  Catch phrases used by the GB

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i read a comment on another thread that made me think of this topic.. how many catchphrases are used by the gb and organisation in an attempt to control or gain power or prevent questioning?

  feel free to list as many as you can think of!.

  i'll start:.

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  Wild_Thing

  theocratic warfare

  Jehovah's happy people

  this system of things or this wicked system of things
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  Why is this scripture blank in some bibles and not in others? It is blank in the JW bible, too.

  by Wild_Thing in

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  and he replied, i do believe that jesus christ is the son of god.acts 8:37 (brg) | in context | whole chapter37 and philip said, if thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.

  the officer said, i believe that jesus christ is the son of god.|acts 8:37 (gnv) | in context | whole chapter37 and philip said unto him, if thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.

  and he answered and said, i believe that jesus christ is the son of god.acts 8:37 (kjv) | in context | whole chapter37 and philip said, if thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.

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  Wild_Thing

  Rebelfighter pointed out in another topic that in the JW bible, Acts 8:37 is completely blank (It literally says "---"), while the KJV says:

  And Philip said, “If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

  So I searched on biblegateway.com where you can compare several different translations of the same scripture, and it turns out several bibles have Acts 8:37 completely blank!

  Does anyone know why? It doesn't seem too controversial of a scripture to me, especially to the JWs since they reject the trinity anyway. I don't think there is a conspiracy or anything! I just want to know why.

  Below are the comparisons from different bibles from https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Acts%208:37.

  Acts 8:37 (KJ21) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, “If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”
  Acts 8:37 (ASV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (AMP) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, If you believe with all your heart [if you have a conviction, full of joyful trust, that Jesus is the Messiah and accept Him as the Author of your salvation in the kingdom of God, giving Him your obedience, then] you may. And he replied, I do believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (BRG) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (CJB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
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  Acts 8:36-37 (CEV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  36-37 As they were going along the road, they came to a place where there was some water. The official said, “Look! Here is some water. Why can’t I be baptized?”
  Acts 8:37 (DLNT) | In Context | Whole Chapter
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  Acts 8:37 (DRA) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said: If thou believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answering, said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (ERV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
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  Acts 8:37 (EXB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  |37 Philip answered, “If you believe with all your heart, you can.” The officer said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”|
  Acts 8:37 (GNV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said unto him, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. Then he answered, and said, I believe that that Jesus Christ is that Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (GNT) | In Context | Whole Chapter
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  Acts 8:37 (HCSB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  [37 And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart you may.” And he replied, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”]
  Acts 8:37 (ICB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 [Philip answered, “If you believe with all your heart, you can.” The officer said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”]
  Acts 8:37 (JUB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, If thou dost believe with all thine heart, thou may. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (KJV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (AKJV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (TLB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 “You can,” Philip answered, “if you believe with all your heart.”
  And the eunuch replied, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”
  Acts 8:36-39 (MSG) | Whole Chapter
  36-39 As they continued down the road, they came to a stream of water. The eunuch said, “Here’s water. Why can’t I be baptized?” He ordered the chariot to stop. They both went down to the water, and Philip baptized him on the spot. When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of God suddenly took Philip off, and that was the last the eunuch saw of him. But he didn’t mind. He had what he’d come for and went on down the road as happy as he could be.
  Acts 8:37 (MEV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” He answered, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”
  Acts 8:37 (NABRE) | In Context | Whole Chapter
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  Acts 8:37 (NASB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 [And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”]
  Acts 8:37 (NCV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  [37 Philip answered, “If you believe with all your heart, you can.” The officer said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”]
  Acts 8:36-37 (NIRV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  36-37 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water. The official said, “Look! Here is water! What can stop me from being baptized?”
  Acts 8:37 (NIV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  [37]
  Acts 8:37 (NIVUK) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  Acts 8:37 (NKJV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 Then Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.”
  And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”
  Acts 8:37 (NLV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 (*Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” The man said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”)
  Gevurot 8:37 (OJB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 [And Philippos said, “If you have emunah b’chol levavcha, it is mutar. And he answered, saying, Ani ma’amin ki Rebbe Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua Ben HaElohim hu.]
  Acts 8:37 (VOICE) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  Philip: [37 If you believe in your heart that Jesus the Anointed is God’s Son, then nothing can stop you.
  The Ethiopian said that he believed.]
  Acts 8:37 (WEB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
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  Acts 8:37 (WE) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 Philip answered, `If you believe with all your heart, you may be baptised.' The man said, `I do believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.'
  Acts 8:37 (WYC) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 And Philip said, If thou believest of all thine heart, it is leaveful. And he answered, and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  Acts 8:37 (YLT) | In Context | Whole Chapter
  37 [And Philip said, `If thou dost believe out of all the heart, it is lawful;' and he answering said, `I believe Jesus Christ to be the Son of God;']
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  Wife just went to circuit meeting

  by menrov in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, for a couple of months now.

  i stopped (after some 17 years) visiting meetings etc.

  my intellect and conscience could not longer stand the lectures from the platform and in the magazines.

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  If you plan to persuade her to leave by using your position as "head of the house", I hope you can see that you will fail.

  In fact, I don't see this tactic being successful in any situation. If my husband were to tell me I had to do something he wants me to do because "the man is head of the woman", his head would promptly be shoved up his ass. By me.
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  Book Burning and other burning of materials done by JW. Any experiences Please post

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  as a very young child i have memories of several book burnings done by jw families.

  it wasn't something arranged by the congregation, but elders did participate in it.

  it was actually scary for me as a child of only about 8 years old.

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  not books - but I do remember a rug burning because it was possessed by a demon who would vacuum and clean house after the couple had gone to bed.

  Now that is one demon I would not get rid of!
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  Does Tithing at Church Count as a Charitable Donation?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has been interesting to see the shift in financial strategies that the wts is implementing recently.

  from reading recent threads, it appears like 'they' are adopting a tithing donation system, similar to what is practised in "those wicked churches of christendoom".

  i am curious as to who it is that stands to benefit the most tax wise in this recent shift.

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  The church that I frequent sends out statements at the end of each year that documents the dates and amounts of each donation you gave that year and the total for the entire year ... but only if you wrote a check. I suppose you could write your name on the envelope for any cash donations, but I never do.
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  Geoffrey Jackson Bio!

  by elkatire1980 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the watchtower august 15 in the topic: "let the many islands rejoice" appears the following paragraph: .

  then, however, it came time for a serious decision.

  would i accept a scholarship to go to university?

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  _Morpheus:
  Yawn... Yea and im the duke of Earl.

  I'm not sure if you are implying that I am lying or not, but either way, you just sound like an ass.

  _Morpheus:
  As the parent of multiple high school children in the USA you are incorrect ...

  Morpheus:
  Everybody is an expert on everything on the internet with specialized training in every field.

  You are so right. And it sounded to me like you were using your "expertise" as a parent to substantiate why you thought I was incorrect, and you knew better. So, I simply let you know my area of expertise to substantiate what I was telling you about how scholarships are awarded, and yes, even academic ones, BEFORE kids graduate. All scholarships come with conditions that have to be met before any money is released. Usually, that entails actually graduating and having the required GPA.
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  Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?

  by Simon in

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  i think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.

  he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.

  many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.

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  Don't misunderstand me. I don't feel sorry for him at all. Like I said, I do feel like he deserves it. I want him off the planet like everyone else. I was just saying that cases like this always bring up my uncomfortableness with capital punishment, in general.

  To me, killing someone for killing someone does feel a little revengeful, but I guess it depends on how close you are to what has happened. Revenge is a very normal, human thing to feel. If he killed my family, I would want revenge, too.

  Punishment, justice, revenge. I still think these are different shades of the same thing.

  Personally, I think "justice" would have been better meted out if he were sentenced to live in an 8x8 concrete cell for the rest of his life, living only on ham and bacon. But I guess that sounds a little revengeful!
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  big accident at Warwick construction site

  by oppostate in

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  the wt society is fond of using the tilt-up method of construction where a network of rebar is made on the ground, concrete poured on it and allowed to cure, then the whole thing is tilted up and voila' you've got yourself a massive big-ass wall ready made.

  these walls for several stories-high buildings are indeed massive and weighty so you need a heavy-duty crane to raise into position.. i just heard from an eye-witness ldc volunteer that while there a few weeks ago they had an enormous accident.

  the crane tilted and crashed, the only one hurt was its operator.

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  Perhaps hiring an educated engineer to help them out would solve their problem. It's amazing what a little education can do.
  
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  Something terrible has just happened

  by Crazyguy in

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  the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.

  i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.

  when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.

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  It's not her fault. I'm sure a snake made her do it. Did she realize she was naked after she ate the strawberry?
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  Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  i think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.

  he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.

  many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.

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  I know he "deserves" the death penalty, but there is a big part of me that still has a problem with capital punishment. It seems so unevolved for us to say, "You killed us, so we are going to kill you." It seems so opposite of what we teach kids about "two wrongs don't make a right".

  This is a topic that I constantly struggle with. Part of me celebrates and says, "Yeah! Kill the bastard!" But then there's the other part of me that says, "Wait ... that's not right, either."

  I think the lines between punishment and revenge often get blurred in cases of mass murder.