in my experience, the jws always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "russellites".
most are wiling to accept that bible students took on the name jehovah's witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "russellites".. is this perception true?
does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the russellites?
Interesting. Thanks for your help, guys! Blondie, I can always count on you for a historical perspective!
I thought they referred to themselves as Russellites when Russell first started the movement. I have read in old newspapers where they refer to them as Russelites. I just assumed that was what they called themselves. I didn't realize they were always called Bible Students.
i'm pasting her obituary below following a google search for her children's names.
i was actually wondering whether she was still in the cult.
according to the obit, she was when she passed some 3 years ago but i suspect she was still a fringe jw as i remember her in the 50's.. janet keeler, as i knew her and her husband buck, attended the marshalltown, iowa congregation when she was in her late 20's.
My bad, neat blue dog! But I guess the same can be said for that, too. We will all be a "Was" someday! :)
in my experience, the jws always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "russellites".
most are wiling to accept that bible students took on the name jehovah's witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "russellites".. is this perception true?
does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the russellites?
Bible Students pre-1931 organizationally always stayed away from the term "Russellites" viewing it as prejorative. My grandparents were members of the WTS pre-1931 and said they always referred to themselves as Bible Students, not followers of a man like Lutherans.
So even though they didn't like that term used for themselves, did they admit that there was a connection? That at some point their group of people were one and the same?
If so, I'm wondering when it went from "we don't like to use that term for ourselves" to "Russellites who?"
in my experience, the jws always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "russellites".
most are wiling to accept that bible students took on the name jehovah's witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "russellites".. is this perception true?
does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the russellites?
In my experience, the JWs always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "Russellites". Most are wiling to accept that Bible Students took on the name Jehovah's Witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "Russellites".
Is this perception true? Does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the Russellites?
I am aware that the Russellites splintered off into several smaller sects (which is why they might want to disavow them), but that also happened under the Bible Student name and the Jehovah's Witness name, too.
i'm pasting her obituary below following a google search for her children's names.
i was actually wondering whether she was still in the cult.
according to the obit, she was when she passed some 3 years ago but i suspect she was still a fringe jw as i remember her in the 50's.. janet keeler, as i knew her and her husband buck, attended the marshalltown, iowa congregation when she was in her late 20's.
WAS a member, as in: at some point in her life.
"WAS" a member can be said of all active JWs and exJWs... after you are dead.
and they start delivering their message of judgment?
what do you think will happen when they start knocking on doors and telling people that their families will be killed in armageddon because they did not believed in jehovah.
i'm curious how people will react.
I don't know if it is possible for the JWs to become MORE full cult mode than they already are. I suppose they can get more fanatical and crazy, but it's hard to imagine.
anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.
In the case of any discussion with a child abuse victim who is still a minor, an elder should never meet alone with the minor but should al-ways involve another elder and another adult member of the congregation, preferably the minor’s parent(s). If it is not possible to include the parent (for example, if the parent is the accused), then another adult member of the congregation who is a confidant of the victim should be included.
Wow! This seems to directly contradict what I watched the Governing Body member testify to in Australia. He made it sound like they would NEVER allow a woman to be present during judicial proceedings. Even though women are not specifically mentioned, this paragraph seems to open the door to the possibility. I certainly hope so, at least.
i just wonder what universities they would have gone to?
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if possible, former members and current ones separately.... .
Thanks for the links, Blondie!
lets say you are able to go back in time to the first man( their belief adam) 7000 years.. now you are magically transporter back to adam time with the knowledge you have from.
todays world..would you make life a little easier for you and your family???
you may move.
remember that this is humor.
rape is wrong.so really, i would rather go to bill cosby's home for an evening (and to be fair, even a gay version of bill cosby) than go to the kingdom hall.. at both, you would know that your hosts would keep the conversation clean.
bill stays on the high road (while speaking).
I would prefer to be unconscious when raped, so Billy Cosby ... here I come!
