I did a little bit more digging. Guess where the story about the suicide attempt came from? A New York Times article from 1988! These guys really need to broaden their reading material. https://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/25/us/brain-wound-eliminates-man-s-mental-illness.html
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Gerrit Lösch gives a special talk the Norval Assembly Hall in Georgetown Canada
by wannaexit inthe first part was all about the the evils of higher education.
i couldn't stand it and left.
was anybody there today?
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Gerrit Lösch gives a special talk the Norval Assembly Hall in Georgetown Canada
by wannaexit inthe first part was all about the the evils of higher education.
i couldn't stand it and left.
was anybody there today?
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Wild_Thing
The statistics he used in that talk were used in a 1988 awake where they quoted from a 1988 New York Times article.
Awake: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101988372
Every person that has heard Losch spout his "statistics" needs to understand where and when these statistics were compiled. The survey he quotes is from 30 years ago. The same survey also showed that there was also a rise in freshmen who supported laws against homosexuality (53%), and a decline of support for legalization of marijuana ... clearly showing what different time period it is from. Link: https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/14/us/to-freshmen-a-big-goal-is-wealth.html
Besides the fact that there is absolutely nothing wrong with hoping to make more money after graduating college, these statistics are grossly out of date. The survey was directed by Dr. Alexander W. Astin for the Higher Education Research Institute at the University of California at Los Angeles.
The key word here is "annual". They conduct the exact same survey every year. It would be very easy for them to use more current data. The funny thing is that the question about money being a motivating factor is up to 72.6%, but it is not the most motivating factor. Here is the most current freshman survey for anyone interested. It is from 2016: https://www.heri.ucla.edu/monographs/TheAmericanFreshman2016.pdf
I haven't found the table for the 1988 data, but here is the table from 2016, so you can see how the question was asked and results tabulated. The first screen shot is of the actual question that is asked of freshmen. The second screenshot is of the results for 2016.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Scripturally Based Position on Child Protection
by humblepotato innews room > legal developments > legal resources.
jehovah's witnesses scripturally based position on child protection.
i am having trouble understanding paragraph 5. it says: .
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The issue ... and this is THE issue ... is that the elders are not qualified to investigate and decide if a child is still in danger or not.
That one statement "the branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses will instruct the elders to report the matter IF a minor is still in danger of abuse or there is some other valid reason" leaves a lot open to subjective interpretation. I think that by them putting this is writing, they are opening themselves up to lawsuits later on. This will come back to bite them. They are instructing their elders to make a judgment call that is typically done by trained professionals, i.e. social workers, etc. That makes them liable.
When are they going to understand: STOP INVESTIGATING! CALL THE AUTHORITIES! HELP THE VICTIM REMAIN SAFE UNTIL AUTHORITIES ARE CONTACTED. Those should be the only instructions given to elders when it comes to child abuse.
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JEHOVAH - The biggest racist in history!?
by stuckinarut2 inmany people like to boast about “jehovah being loving and impartial toward all”.
there are even scriptures that say words to that effect.. however, if we look at just his actual conduct and actions , and not accept the words supposedly written by his apologetic “bible writers”, the facts tell us something else!.
firstly, he chose one special nation and race of people.
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God takes on the personality and image of whoever is writing about it. Humans can be the biggest egomaniacs. "I'm a racist, so God must be one, too!"
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Has anyone seen this?
by wokeup ingoogle: vintage freemason compilation collinsworth family.. several pages into the program has a familiar face..
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This claim has been disproven over and over again.
First, that is a TERRIBLE photoshop job to try to make the Watchtower's CTR fit the narrative of whomever created that piece-meal document.
Second, a little research will show you that this was a different Charles T. Russell. See this link for a full biography of the correct Charles T. Russell that was a Freemason. That Charles T. Russell was an attorney in Isabella County in the state of Michigan. https://archive.org/stream/portraitbiograph00ch#page/470/mode/2up
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Older publications.
by Lost in the fog init's amazing what you can stumble upon on the internet these days.
i just came across this site.
maybe you already knew about it, but i did not.
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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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I couldn't tolerate the cultural aspects of JWs that I grew up with. Their stance against education, the shunning of non-members, the belittling of women, and the mishandling of physical and sexual abuse within families in the congregations was enough for me to abandon ship. I observed all of these things first hand or experienced them myself. It was later after I left that I decided to do research and determined it was just another religion.
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The Home of Charles Taze Russell - Renovated
by Wild_Thing incharles and maria russell lived in one side.
emma russell lived on the other.
emma russell was maria's younger sister who married charles's father.
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Yes, the father and son Russell duo (Joseph and Charles) married the two Ackley sisters (Emma and Maria). That meant Emma was CTR's sister-in-law AND step-mother.
Even more interesting ... the dad married the youngest Ackley sister. Joseph was 66/67 years old when he married 25ish year old Emma Ackley, making him more than 40 years her senior. Charles actually married the sister was two years his elder. 27 year old Charles married 29 year old Maria Ackley.
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Why are there more sisters than brothers at the Kingdom Hauls?
by Sour Grapes ini have always wondered why there are more females than males in all of the congregations that i have visited?
some of these females are in their 70's so maybe their husbands have died and women just live longer.
or could the reason be that years ago men were the breadwinners and women stayed home to raise the children thus they were home during the week when the jdubs came a knocking?
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I thought it was because the male animal has no season in which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.
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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?
by pale.emperor inso lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.
i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.
but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.
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Wild_Thing
I think if he wants to write a second or third book, more power to him. It won't be for everybody. Personally, I like to watch his YouTube commentaries, and I appreciate anybody who is willing to publicly speak out against the wrong doings within the org. It takes a lot of time and money to do all that. It doesn't bother me one bit if he profits from it through books or videos or whatever. I am sure there are some who find his books useful, so I wish him success.