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  What's your favorite book?

  by nb-dfed in

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  ozziepost's post about what we are all reading now made me wonder what everyone's favorite book is.

  my all time favorite is to kill a mockingbird - harper lee.

  i also love shogun by james clavell and east of eden by john steinbeck.

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  Wild_Thing

  My all time favorite book is also To Kill A Mockingbird! You have great taste, nb-dfed! It is an all time classic that everyone should read!
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  Were you illegally disfellowshipped?

  by hubert in

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  based on "official" bible based doctrine, were you "illegally disfellowshipped?

  i have been reading many threads on disfellowsipping, and it makes me wonder if there were many who were disassociated, or thrown out of the org.

  for reasons other than what the watchtower officially teaches?

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  Since when is disfellowshipping of any kind bible based??? Seems to me, it is just another policy where the witnesses, yet again, twist scripture to fit their own policies. Therefore, I officially deem them all illegal, null, and void!
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  Ozzie's Weekend Poll #109 How much does a dub believe?

  by ozziepost in

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  3. armageddon, 144,000, great crowd, paradise earth, wts are jehovah's organisation, f&ds, 1914, 1919, dubs the only survivors, cedar point ohio .

  4. armageddon, 144,000, great crowd, paradise earth, wts are jehovah's organisation, f&ds, 1914, 1919, dubs the only survivors .

  5. armageddon, 144,000, great crowd, paradise earth, wts are jehovah's organisation, f&ds, 1914, 1919 .

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  Wild_Thing

  For JWs, it is either # 11 or 13.

  My mother ... #11 ... when I left the org, she confided in me that she felt much of what I did, and had for years (about the hyposcrisy and cover-ups ... my family has seen/experienced a lot). But she said that she believed Jehovah would end it some day, and the JWs is the best that is out there right now. Seeing how she was raised a witness herself, I don't see how she had much opportunity to explore other religions, but that is what she said! <shaking head .....>

  One of my sisters ... #13 ... I have come to see that she believes none of it and is only in it out fear and blackmail. What a miserable existence! I have little sympathy for her though ... she has seen and experienced everything that I have and she is knowingly committing herself and her daughter to a long life full of hypocrisy and lies.
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  A Question For JW's Concerning Sticking To Their Own Kind...?

  by Mr Parody in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm not a witness myself, i'm not even religious, but i know this younger woman who is.

  i thought we hit it off pretty well.

  i became attracted to her by her beauty, then infatuated by her kindness, and sweet personality...then i found out she was a jw.. i was told by another witness (a newbe witness) that jw's stick to their own kind, and do not stray outside as far as romance go's and i would have no chance at all with her...is this true???.

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  I agree with everyone else. She wants to convert you, no doubt! She may possibly be thinking of you in more of a romantic way, but if she is as devout as you say, I doubt that is the case if she knows you are a married man. Unless you want to be a JW, I would not walk, but run very far away from this woman! Just my opinion ...
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  Does Your JW Family Do This?????????

  by Wild_Thing in

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  2. friends

  okay ... here's what happened .... first, some background ... i am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and i left for good more than four years ago (i left in my heart a long time before that).

  they tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again.

  my mother and sisters are all still witnesses.

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  I get what you are saying, Scully. I do not think smoking is wrong. I smoke at times myself (only when I drink! ) I don't even have a problem with her sneaking around and doing it. It is another one of the JWs stupid rules! And I understand WHY she chose to deny it and make my neice and I out to be the untruthful ones, but it still makes me so mad. But, the sad fact is ... even if she had owned up to it and told them that it was none of their business and used it as an opportunity to leave the religion (my preference), she would still be an idiot, selfish, and a bit of a liar. Maybe things will never be "sisterly" between us. Come to think of it ... probably not.
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  Does Your JW Family Do This?????????

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
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  okay ... here's what happened .... first, some background ... i am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and i left for good more than four years ago (i left in my heart a long time before that).

  they tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again.

  my mother and sisters are all still witnesses.

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  Wild_Thing

  None 'o your bizness to say anything in the first place.

  I didn't say anything in the first place ... it was my neice who found the cigarettes and accused her of smoking. Should I have lied for her? I actually thought about lying for her, but then I would be calling my neice a liar, too. Besides that, the circumstances surrounding it all surfacing really caught me off guard!

  And I am trying to be like Switzerland and have not said word one to anyone else about it except her .. honestly, I hope they don't pursue it, but at the same time, I can't stand being called a liar, and my sister just cannot see how/ why it is wrong!

  Am I wrong?
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  Does Your JW Family Do This?????????

  by Wild_Thing in

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  okay ... here's what happened .... first, some background ... i am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and i left for good more than four years ago (i left in my heart a long time before that).

  they tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again.

  my mother and sisters are all still witnesses.

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  Wild_Thing

  I am 27 ... single, well educated, have a career, own my house ... and I want to move to Mexico! (I know my life should be better than this!)
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  Does Your JW Family Do This?????????

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay ... here's what happened .... first, some background ... i am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and i left for good more than four years ago (i left in my heart a long time before that).

  they tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again.

  my mother and sisters are all still witnesses.

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  Wild_Thing

  Okay ... here's what happened ...

  First, some background ... I am the youngest of three daughters raised in the org (we are third generation), and I left for good more than four years ago (I left in my heart a long time before that). They tried to shun me for a while, but couldn't keep it up any longer than 6 months, and after that we slowly got close again. My mother and sisters are all still witnesses. Anyway, my oldest sister has been going through this God awful custody battle, and I allowed her and her daughter to live in my home for a year. (It didn't go well ... I ended up having to ask her to leave (as nicely as I could) .. and a lot more I won't go into.)

  Anyway, during the time she lived with me, she started smoking cigarettes. I knew she was doing it, and I knew she was hiding it. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to cause a stink and I really considered it none of my business. Besides that, we come from the ultimate in dysfunctional families and we don't TALK about anything! (I think my family invented the whole big elephant in the living room thing!) I was a little worried about her getting in trouble, but she was baptized when she was 12, and is not even a publisher now (hasn't been one for 10+ years). She is so much of a quasi-witness, she barely registers as a bleep on the radar!

  One evening, a month before she moved out, her daughter dug into her purse without permission and found the cigarettes (no one in my famlily has boundaries, hence no one saw the problem of her digging in her purse without permission ... go figure!) This all happened at a restaurant in front of me and the rest of my JW family. Her daughter was very visably upset and asked to ride back to the house with her other aunt (my other sister). At this point no one knew why she was upset, but she told my other sister and her elder-husband about the cigarettes on the ride back to my house. They had been suspecting anyway because of the smell, and my neice, who is 16 put 2 + 2 together and told them about all the "errands" she had been leaving the house to go do.

  When they arrived, my cigarette-smoking sister went inside for "something" (don't know what ... maybe to get rid of the evidence?) I was outside with my other sister as she told me about what my neice had found and she asked me if I knew that our sister had been smoking cigarettes. I started crying and told her truth, and starting going off on how ridiculous it is for them to condemn her like I knew they were going to do, etc. and I knew it would happen sometime to one of us, and it was just a matter of time before they did it to my neice (who is a teenager). I pretty much lost it! She assured me that no matter what, they would not shun her. (She tried to tell me that things are not like they use to be in the organization when we were kids ... whatever!)

  After all this happened and I had gone my own way for the evening, they confronted her about smoking and she adamantly denied the whole thing. My teenage neice said she knew what she saw and could even tell them the brand. My sister continued to call her own daughter a liar and she called me a liar. This was told to me later by my other sister, and honestly, I did not know what to say. I told her that I have never actually seen her smoke one, so they can't do anything about it anyway. (I really didn't intend to rat her out, I just knew ... or thought I knew ... that it had gone so far, she couldn't hide it anymore.) She continued to deny it, no matter what .. even to me privately ... and I had been defending her!

  Now ... I am torn. I understand her desire for self-preservation, and I hate to think of the ultimate price of being df'd, but I am absoultely furious that she called myself and her own daughter a liar! How do I resolve this within myself?? I have been discussing this with her via email about how it bothered me and she has zero remorse (or so it seems) that she saved her ass at the cost of my neice and myself. It has been dropped within the family, and our other sister and her husband did not make it an elder matter (bless their hearts), but I am still left with this wedge between my sister and myself over this whole thing. I tried explaining to her that yes, I understand her fears, but because of her lying about it, it left my family not knowing who to believe, and it left me not knowing if I can trust what she says about about anything (because she still denies it even to me).

  Have you ever heard of such a mess?? I am so mad at her for lying. She is lying to herself too, and insisting on staying in a religion that she is so obviously unhappy with! I told her that if they were going to cut anyone off, it would have been me a long time ago! I have blatently rebeled against the religion and done A LOT of no-nos. They let me leave quietly and so far, have not come after, and I have a great relationship with my family (except for my lying b**** of a sister!)

  So ... how do I let this go?
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  Give the JW experience a BOOK title.

  by qwerty in

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  pinching following on fromprestons idea of the movie theme i'll start...................... pride and prejudice.

  wuthering brooklyn heights.

  the awakening.

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  Oh, the Places You Can Never Go! ... by Dr. Seuss, of course!

  Another Dr. Suess ... Oh the Thinks You Can't Think! (original title is Oh, the Thinks You Can Think for all you non-Dr.Suess fans)

  Actually, its pretty funny to look at the titles of a lot Dr.Suess books and think about the JWs ... LOL!

  How about ... How Rutherford Stole Christmas!
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  I did it!!

  by Scully in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i finally gave all my meeting clothes the heave-ho!!

  i've been on a closet cleaning binge and finally decided it was time to donate all of these old things to a local women's shelter.

  i figured some of these ladies may have nothing decent to wear if they need to go job hunting, so my old meeting clothes, shoes, and handbags would at least serve a noble purpose in their recycled lifetimes.. for some reason, i hung on to them for the last several years, knowing full-well that i would never set foot in a kingdom hall ever again.

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  Good for you, Scully! I have been hanging onto a single box of old literature in the same way! At first, I thought I might need it if I ever had to argue with my family on why my left (I thought I could use their own literaure against them.) Now, I don't know why I am hanging onto it at all! I thought about selling the stuff on ebay ... it is amazing what people will pay for old watchtower crap! The box is still sitting in the back of some closet in the basement.

  As far as my Kingdom Hall wardrobe ... I slowly phased it out, giving most of it to goodwill. A lot of it I kept because I can use it to wear to my current job. But, when I first left the org, I went through a phase where I would not even where a skirt to work because they felt like Kingdom Hall clothes!!! I got over it, and wear a skirt or dress every once in a while.