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if seems to be quite fashionable nowadays for ex-jws to get a tattoo or a series of tattoos to symbolize either their time spent in the watchtower or their escape, and i kind of don't get it.

i don't understand why someone would want a constant reminder on their body of such a horrible period in their life.

on another forum, one woman shared that she was getting 25 bees tattooed all over her body to represent the 25 years she spent in the org.

punkfofnice ... here is one. I don't have a problem with tattoos in general. And of course, it is everyone's prerogative what they get tattooed on their body. I am just trying to understand why someone would get a tattoo like this ...

Others that have symbolism, I totally get, but I am still not sure I would want something on my body that is a daily reminder of the Watchtower. I would really depend on the tat, I guess. Here are some of the more symbolic ones I have found:

And the not so symbolic ...

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What kind of data does the Watchtower keep on former members?

by Wild_Thing in

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from this link: http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/jw-wb/english/internal%20documents/elders/instructions%20for%20reporting%20disfellowshippings%20or%20disassociations%20(s-77%20s-79).pdf.

this is part of one the society's forms used from 1992. the paragraph that says, "if the individual is reinstated (or dies), the secretary should fill in the date and send it to the society in the special blue envelope" caught me off guard.

or dies??

Wild_Thing

From this link: http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/jw-wb/English/Internal%20Documents/Elders/Instructions%20for%20reporting%20disfellowshippings%20or%20disassociations%20(S-77%20S-79).pdf

This is part of one the Society's forms used from 1992. The paragraph that says, "If the individual is reinstated (or dies), the secretary should fill in the date and send it to the Society in the special blue envelope" caught me off guard. OR DIES?? Did they really keep track of when former members died and sent it off to the Society in a "special blue envelope"? That just seems so weird ... and well ... culty. Do they still do this?

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Tattoos?

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if seems to be quite fashionable nowadays for ex-jws to get a tattoo or a series of tattoos to symbolize either their time spent in the watchtower or their escape, and i kind of don't get it.

i don't understand why someone would want a constant reminder on their body of such a horrible period in their life.

on another forum, one woman shared that she was getting 25 bees tattooed all over her body to represent the 25 years she spent in the org.

Wild_Thing

If seems to be quite fashionable nowadays for ex-JWs to get a tattoo or a series of tattoos to symbolize either their time spent in the Watchtower or their escape, and I kind of don't get it. Am I just too old? I don't understand why someone would want a constant reminder on their body of such a horrible period in their life. On another forum, one woman shared that she was getting 25 bees tattooed all over her body to represent the 25 years she spent in the org. Bees!

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Has the Governing Body EVER apologized for anything?

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geoffrey jackson testified to the arc that the governing body has apologized for things in the past, so an apology to sexual abuse victims is "perceivable".

what has the governing body ever apologized for?.

22 q. just on that point, mr jackson, has the governing body23 considered apologising to survivors of child sexual abuse24 at the hands of elders within the organisation?25 a. i haven't been in any discussions with regard to that.26 27 q. is that something that you foresee might happen ‐ in 28 other words, that an apology at least be considered?29 a. the governing body has apologised on other matters, so30 for me to say ‐ i can't speak collectively for everybody, 31 but we have apologised on things in the past, in other32 areas, so it is perceivable.. .

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It was such a missed opportunity to call him out. All he would have had to say is, "Can you provide some specific examples of what the Governing Body has apologized for in the past?" I would love to hear his answer.

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Has the Governing Body EVER apologized for anything?

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geoffrey jackson testified to the arc that the governing body has apologized for things in the past, so an apology to sexual abuse victims is "perceivable".

what has the governing body ever apologized for?.

22 q. just on that point, mr jackson, has the governing body23 considered apologising to survivors of child sexual abuse24 at the hands of elders within the organisation?25 a. i haven't been in any discussions with regard to that.26 27 q. is that something that you foresee might happen ‐ in 28 other words, that an apology at least be considered?29 a. the governing body has apologised on other matters, so30 for me to say ‐ i can't speak collectively for everybody, 31 but we have apologised on things in the past, in other32 areas, so it is perceivable.. .

Wild_Thing

Geoffrey Jackson testified to the ARC that the Governing Body has apologized for things in the past, so an apology to sexual abuse victims is "perceivable". What has the Governing Body EVER apologized for?

22 Q. Just on that point, Mr Jackson, has the Governing Body
23 considered apologising to survivors of child sexual abuse
24 at the hands of elders within the organisation?
25 A. I haven't been in any discussions with regard to that.
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27 Q. Is that something that you foresee might happen ‐ in
28 other words, that an apology at least be considered?
29 A. The Governing Body has apologised on other matters, so
30 for me to say ‐ I can't speak collectively for everybody,
31 but we have apologised on things in the past, in other
32 areas, so it is perceivable.

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Welcome to all the newbies and lurkers that have joined this forum lately.

by smiddy3 in

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i`m sure you have all noticed the ever increasing number of newbies and lurkers who have visited this site over the past months and i am sure we could all collectively welcome them to this site and support them on learning the ttatt .

and helping them to navigate how they can look up older publications and quotes of the wtb&ts that they would rather remain hidden.. we all know jehovah`s witnesses /governing body never apologizes for mistakes they make they just don`t mention them anymore and explain it away as new light from god.. actually a big cop out.. welcome to all you who are new to this site .. every day their seems to be someone new posting which is great .. and if this is any indication of what is happening in all other ex jw sites the wtb&ts are in deep trouble .

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Wild_Thing

Welcome lurkers and newbies! If you want to read more about the early years of the Watchtower, newspaper archives are a great place to start. The Brooklyn Daily Eagle covered the ever growing Russelites/International Bible Students/Watchtower movement as it continued to grow in Brooklyn in the early years.

You can view the clippings I have found here: https://bklyn.newspapers.com/profile/Wild_Thing/clippings/1 or search on your own.

Here is one interesting article from 1909. It is about when Russel first moved the Watchtower Headquarters from the Pittsburgh area to Brooklyn. https://bklyn.newspapers.com/clip/15945460/divorced_pastor_here_opens_new/

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