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New publisher card with no home address / 2019

by suavojr in

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sorry if this has been discussed but i cannot find any topic on this.

i just saw my new publisher card and it now has my home address, date of birth and phone number removed.

the elder said this was changed december 2018. does anyone know why this has happened in the usa?.

careful

OTWO,
You missed the verb "removed." Three things are now removed: home address, DOB, and phone number. There are words (two more subjects) between "my home address" and "removed"—maybe this threw you(?).

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Breaking news: Update Darkspilver May 6th hearing

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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on may 6th, 2019 watch tower attorney paul polidoro faced off against anonymous reddit user darkspilver, represented by eff, the electronic frontier foundation.. link to youtube video with audio from may 6th hearing:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wzopjmzfco&feature=youtu.be.

polidoro, noted for his appearance in the supreme court case of watchtower versus stratton ohio, now represents watch tower of pennsylvania in their efforts to flush out the inside leak sources of documents, videos and images.. these documents and other sensitive information have been leaked to the public and reposted by dozens of individuals since 2017. watch tower is deeply concerned about the internal moles leaking this information, since much of it has been used by whistleblowers to reveal watch tower's private internal policies and procedures.. included in the leaks are publisher id and records management materials which reveal the extent of jehovah's witness data collection and management prodedures, including the destruction of documents.. jehovah's witnesses have come under intense scrutiny for their failure to report child abuse across the globe, not only in mandatory reporting states, but in every location where clergy members are not required to report.. the dangerous policies of the jehovah's witness organization have resulted in a significant movement among current and former members to expose the organization and force transparency.. current members with high-level access to watch tower documents have risked expulsion and legal recourse for their efforts.. the electronic frontier foundation's attorney alex moss represented the unidentified darkspilver redditor in defense of the motion to quash watch tower's subpoena to unmask his identity.. listen closely as both sides make their case, and the judge seeks to understand the issues involved.. freedom of speech versus alleged copyright infringement- you be the judge.

careful

Thanks, Zing, for the post. The opposing counsel, and the judge, highlighted that confidentiality issues have nothing to do with copyright claims. Clearly the org is trying to use copyright law to get this chap's name and ferret him out. The WT lawyer tried to keep the judge in the dark as to the way darkspilver would really be treated if caught.

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Here’s a link to all the 2019 Convention Videos

by HiddenPimo in

2019 convention videos.

rutube 😉 dang holy spirit foiled again .

careful

HP,

When I hit the link there was a split-second appearance of a page in English with the vids but then a page in Russian quickly followed and I couldn't see the vid links. Can you fix this, or provide the url so I can cut and paste it?

Thanks.

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When did they start yelling at professed anointed ones not to partake?

by newsheep in

is this a new practice of the org or just certain elders wanting to throw their weight around?

we had received a phone call from a once mennonite man turned joho and he was upset.

the elders for three years in a row have hounded him not to partake.

careful

Are they really "yelling" at them?

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Beautiful New "Kingdom Hall"

by Sea Breeze in

these images were posted on one of my fb news feeds.

they are legit.

looks like an upscale commercial bldg.

careful

OTO,

Thanks for the pic. Where is this one? To me it looks like a management office temporarily thrown up at a construction site—"this architectural marvel" indeed!

I wonder about demolishing the old one. Was it in such bad shape that no one would buy it so it had to be taken down? This one looks tiny, cheap, and bland.

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CO at assembly in Ohio repeatedly says great tribulation is "only minutes away"

by LevelThePlayingField in

snippets of two talks by co at ca and during his visit to a congregation in ohio.

fear mongering at it's best.

has anyone else heard their co say the same nonsense?.

careful

LTPF,

So the hall on Roe St. is still unsold. How about that one over on Forest in Anderson Township? I heard that was for sale. Did they sell it? Best be careful the Oakley BOE don't start hunting 4 U!

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Jehovah's Witness sex offender in court.

by Lost in the fog in

https://eu.thecalifornian.com/story/news/2019/05/03/eviction-protest-led-cops-salinas-sovereign-citizen-sex-offender/3656758002/ .

careful

Sounds like a real nut job.

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Has the GB changed any published information on their JW Library?

by Tenacious in

in rummaging through some of my old cd's i came across a 2011 jw library disk.. i have the most recent home release on my pc but was wondering if anyone knows if the gb has deleted or changed any embarrassing or outdated doctrine.

i was going to throw it out but thought twice.. any info is much appreciated.. thanks..

careful

Thanks, TW & JCM. That does help clear up the chronology. So they have gone back in 2014 to the old 1987 view? Did they change it in between? It all seems so bizarre given what the context says.

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Has the GB changed any published information on their JW Library?

by Tenacious in

in rummaging through some of my old cd's i came across a 2011 jw library disk.. i have the most recent home release on my pc but was wondering if anyone knows if the gb has deleted or changed any embarrassing or outdated doctrine.

i was going to throw it out but thought twice.. any info is much appreciated.. thanks..

careful

TW,

Thanks for the partial explanation. Like many people here, I do not have the time to research every poster's personal history on this forum. My life is very busy. We all have only 24 hours a day to get things done, and researching each poster's personal history here is certainly not a high priority for me. I don't think that I "should know better," either! The members here are a diverse group and some of us don't have that much time to spend at this forum. Also I was asking a question—there's no need to take offense at that. What is a person to think when someone responds by going so far off topic? Think about these things, please, before you chide someone with what they "should" know or do...

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Has the GB changed any published information on their JW Library?

by Tenacious in

in rummaging through some of my old cd's i came across a 2011 jw library disk.. i have the most recent home release on my pc but was wondering if anyone knows if the gb has deleted or changed any embarrassing or outdated doctrine.

i was going to throw it out but thought twice.. any info is much appreciated.. thanks..

careful

TW & JCM:

I'm not sure how to understand your post. What do WT magazine statements from 2008 to 2014 have to do with the 1980s? Did I not make it clear that the reference I spoke of could in no way be found in any WTS index or webpage?

How do your statements relate the original post here? I do not want to be impolite or insulting, but I must wonder about your motives. Are you rather slow on the uptake? Are you in some way trying to defend the WTS/GB and their followers? This forum is hardly the place for that!

Whatever is going on with your post, for those with real interest in my point and how it relates to Tenacious' OP, I found the reference. It is on p. 11 of the 15 Feb 1987 WT, the USA edition. But again, one can only see it if one has the original individual magazine. It was changed in the bound volume and all subsequent postings of that. The key part of the article reads, "Evidently this was said primarily for Jesus' benefit," in direct contradiction to John 12:30.