Thanks for the thoughts. This KH is in a residential area and directly across from a large school. A church is a few buildings away, and businesses about half a block away. Perhaps the zoning is more flexible than in other places? Perhaps the org is asking too much for it? Maybe the org is thinking the school could use it for something and holding out for a better offer from them?
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Anybody else see KH sales lagging?
by careful inthere is a large kh in my area, a nice neighbourhood, that has been up for sale for well over a year now.
the old cong that used to go there travels miles to go to their reassigned hall.
i swing by the old one now and then to see if anyone has bought it.
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New Armageddon date?
by neat blue dog inlooking at the most recent wt the study article focuses on the jubilees.
the made a separate box in the article to highlight the math behind jubilees, and i'm wondering if they're trying to get people thinking and stir up the pot without actually making a false prophecy.
for instance: jubilees happened every 7 times 7 years.
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It is not by accident that 50 years after the 1925 date that Rutherford put out was 1975, the date Fred Franz went crazy with. Both were trying to integrate the jubilee cycle into their other chronological-prophetic speculations. It's not surprising then if Splane starts going bonkers with this old idea—YAWN.
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2019 Watchtower Accounting Training Videos & Files-English/German!
by Atlantis in2019 accounting training videos and files.. english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qgjbjiqyiv 2019 files and forms-english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qh1yjjaktk atlantis!
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Thanks yet again, Atlantis.
I've only looked at one briefly but noted 2 things. First, it looks like Herd is just reading from a monitor behind the camera, no Bible or notes. Second, I wonder if these are being sent out to further trim spending and waste so that even more money can be squeezed out of those keeping financial records.
Cheers!
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Request For:--2006 Deliverance At Hand Resolution!
by Atlantis inhi bill:.
you wanted evidence concerning the "resolution" that was mentioned at the convention back in 2006.. ok, here you go:.
2006 "deliverance at hand" district convention resolution.. this "resolution" upgraded the words: "the world", to:human society that is alienated from god.you must be no part of the world....and....be no part of human society alienated from god.a typed copy of this resolution is found here:https://docdro.id/tlferwaplease note no.7 of the resolution.7.
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"I felt that that resolution was completely pointless" -- evidence that you were beginning to wake up, paradise seeker!
Such "resolutions" are just a way to fire up the unthinking faithful. It's like declaring this or that "special," another tactic the org has used for decades.
Yawn ...
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Anybody else see KH sales lagging?
by careful inthere is a large kh in my area, a nice neighbourhood, that has been up for sale for well over a year now.
the old cong that used to go there travels miles to go to their reassigned hall.
i swing by the old one now and then to see if anyone has bought it.
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There is a large KH in my area, a nice neighbourhood, that has been up for sale for well over a year now. The old cong that used to go there travels miles to go to their reassigned hall. I swing by the old one now and then to see if anyone has bought it. This week I saw about 8-10 cars in the lot, mid-morning weekday. The lights were out, so I figured they're still using it for FS meetings.
I saw too that the parking lot behind it is getting full of uncut weeds springing up in the cracks in the pavement, hardly a successful strategy for a sale.
Has anyone else seen them having problems selling KHs they want to dump?
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Museums growing at the branches especially Warwick
by benny ini am not sure if this has been discussed but last night mid week meeting about organisational accomplishments really got my goat as the example of the temple was used.
people contributed to the building of the jewish temple and now the museum and bethel in warwick.
this supposed .be evidence of god s guidance.
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I cannot help but think that the huge Museum of the Bible in Washington DC, the product of the multi-millionaire and Evangelical/Fundamentalist Green family (who owns the successful Hobby Lobby chain), has had some role to play in the GB's (and especially Mark Sanderson's) working up some "competition" to it. Likely the GB feel they are the real "defenders of doctrine" (isn't that what Jackson told the ARC?) and therefore must "right the ship" when it comes to Bible museums.
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GB wifes
by asp59 inwith the talks abouth tight pants in men and now samuel herd abouth fat women are better then fit .
this are topics women talk abouth.
you think its the gb wifes running the show now?.
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Ding,
"I hope the more the GB make videos, the more JWs will see just how out of touch with reality they really are."
Unfortunately, few will since the belief that these men speak for God trumps any sense of logic. More likely the sisters will now want to put on the pounds so they can follow God's direction!
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3-File Requests: Destroy Notes BOE--Publications For Discard--Where Are The Nine!
by Atlantis in2019-08-28 destroy notes.. https://docdro.id/ojsdss2.
2012--2018 publications approved for discard.
https://docdro.id/llottt0.
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DO WHAT WE SAY. WE ARE IN CONTROL!
Thx, as always, Atlantis.
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New World Translation - Variants
by Wonderment innew world translation - variantstentative translations below.
you native language experts can probably do better than me.
if so, help yourself.. matthew 24.3, english edition: “what will be the sign of... the conclusion of the system of things?”french, 1987: “quel sera le signe de… la conclusion du système de choses” (...the system of things)french revised: “quel sera le signe de… la période finale du monde?” (…the final period of the world)german revised: “und den abschluss des weltsystems erkennen?” (the conclusion of the world system)spanish revised: “qué señal habrá... de la conclusión del sistema?” (…conclusion of the system)matthew 24.45, "the faithful and discreet slave":italian revised: “lo schiavo fedele e saggio” = “the faithful and wise slave”portuguese revised: “o escravo fiel e prudente” = “the faithful and prudent slave”spanish revised, “el esclavo fiel y prudente” = “the faithful and prudent slave”matthew 25.46,(english edition), “cutting-off” contrasted with “everlasting life” in the same verse.
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Yes, SBF and Earnest, and most of those 558 differences are quite minor. There are not many places where in the rev. NWT where the "committee," based on more recent editions of the Greek text, namely NA and UBS, made a change from the old NWT editions. However, one such is at Eph. 1:15.
"Since I have heard of the faith you have in the Lord Jesus and toward all the holy ones," older NWT editions done by Fred Franz.
"Since I have heard of the faith you have in the Lord Jesus and the love that you demonstrate toward all the holy ones," rev. NWT.
The change in bold print is based on the Greek text in NA/UBS. This in turn is based not on any newly discovered manuscripts. In fact, the only manuscript find since the time of WH that bears on this passage is P46 which reinforces the text WH provide, what Fred Franz went with when he produced those earlier NWT editions, and not what UBS/NA read. Rather what has happened is that textual critics (scholars who try to establish what was originally written) have largely changed their thinking here and have come to believe that the words "the love" accidentally dropped out as the text was transmitted down through time. It is not what the earliest sources read. The words in the NWT "that you demonstrate" are not in the Greek but were added for clarity. Overall, what those who are responsible for the rev. NWT often did was look at other modern English translations, often conservative Protestant ones, and imitate them. The NIV, HCSB, ESV, have "your love" here. So do the NRSV and the 2017 NT translation by David Bentley Hart. The NEB/REB has "the love you bear." All these renderings are because the scholars translating them relied on the NA/UBS Greek text, not because of new manuscripts being found.
Two further things. First, WH were well aware of the textual problem here. They discuss it in vol. 2, pages 124-5. Second, what the manuscripts read is only one consideration of textual criticism. It's called the external evidence. The other area is called the internal evidence, and this includes things like scribal habits, textual transmission and its history, the influence of the church on the text, and so on. WH were aware of both components of textual criticism, but the field has been giving more emphasis to the internal evidence since the time of WH. Hence the change of readings in passages like this. It seems very unlikely that those responsible for the rev. NWT are even aware of details like this. They are just adopting, in certain passages that do not affect their key doctrines, what they see in other modern translations.
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I genuinely burst out laughing.................
by The Fall Guy in...when i read a reply to an email which i sent to a devout couple of jw's, showing the luxurious accommodation which "vows of poverty" jw's have been living in.. https://ibsaproperty.com.
the reply began by apologising for their "bad french.
" brilliant!
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Yes, blondie, I know all that. But there is sometimes a discrepancy between the ideal/legal and the real. That's what we have here.