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  In 4-3 judgment, Montana Supreme Court allows Nunez ($35M) case to be relitigated under another legal theory

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as a reminder, the plaintiff in that case, alexis nunez, was abused by her step-grandfather, maximo reyes, who have been disfellowshipped for one year for abusing his children.

  she sued the organization for failure to report the known abuse to police and was awarded $35 million by a jury while another plaintiff (her aunt) lost her case.

  the supreme court of montana reversed the award, finding that congregation and bethel elders were exempt from duty to report.. the plaintiff then asked the district court to allow her to sue the org again under another legal theory - common law negligence - which has been voluntarily abandoned by her counsel before the trial.

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  As always Corney, thanks for the update. Please keep us informed.
  
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  The Execution of Ed Dunlap

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  amazing insights into wts doctrine and practice from a former bethelite who worked with ray franz on the aid book.. https://youtu.be/mz6mjycc7ag.

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  I never knew Ed Dunlap but sure enjoyed the James commentary.

  RK, wow, that's quite a project making up that letter and sending it off to the places you have. It's taken me a long time to stop laughing! It shows how vulnerable the org is to a thinking person since those in the org trust rather than think. No wonder it's had results.
  
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  Senior Judge to Revisit Case-Law on Authorizing Medical Treatment Against Wishes of Mature Minor

  by Corney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/ewhc/fam/2020/3003.html.

  nearly two weeks ago, sir james munby, a privy council member, formerly a law commission chairman, high court's family division president, and a lord justice of appeal, issued a short emergency order in a blood transfusion case closely resembling mcewan's the children act.. here are some excerpts:.

  2. the case involves the deeply troubling question of whether a blood transfusion should be administered to a young woman who is almost, not quite, 16, against her profound religious beliefs.

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  As usual, thanks Corney, for keeping us up-to-date on this. The Gillick competency notion is UK-Commonwealth one. Do you, or anyone else here, know how EU or USA courts feel about his legal idea? It's ironic that it came about from the desire for contraception by those under 16 yo who wanted to keep their parents in the dark about it, something the WTS would never condone, yet is being used by WTS lawyers for the blood issue.
  
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  EU top court rules on JW blood transfusion case

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the court of justice of the european union (cjeu) yesterday delivered the judgment (press release) on a request of the supreme court of latvia on whether domestic authorities are obliged to reimburse costs of cross-border medical treatment when the patient's decision to perform it in another european country was based on religious, not medical, grounds.

  the opinion of advocate general (summarized here) is helpful in understanding the case.. the son of the applicant in the main proceedings had to have open heart surgery.

  that operation was available in the latter’s member state of affiliation, latvia, but could not be carried out without a blood transfusion.

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  Thx Corney for the update.

  Phizzy:

  They could not totally do a 360 turn on the Blood nonsense, because they would face costly Litigation from families who had lost loved ones unnecessarily.

  Well said!
  
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  Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  new cases:.

  diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.

  tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.

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  Thanks. Keep us posted please.

  
  
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  Belgium: Jehovah’s Witnesses to face trial for discrimination and incitement to hate

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jehovah’s witnesses to face trial for discrimination and incitement to hate.

  https://www.thebulletin.be/jehovahs-witnesses-face-trial-discrimination-and-incitement-hate?fbclid=iwar3wroaxyiadw0lomgmway-jkwzgzqxtswsid1d2lxhjgtndnfvvclqboo0.

  "while jehovah’s witnesses have been the target of civil court cases before, this is the first time an entire congregation has ever been charged with a crime.".

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  Thanks for the post! This will be worth watching.

  
  
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  Prime Minister of Australia announces intention to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses charity status

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.

  the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.

  they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.

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  SBF first said:

  Yes It’s puzzling why Watchtower didn’t ultimately join the compensation scheme to avoid sanction and reputation damage.
  

  Yes, it seems puzzling. SBF then offered this reason why they won't join up:
  

  Unless they simply can’t afford it. If not in this particular case in Australia, then as a general principle Watchtower has determined that they just don’t have the funds to compensate victims of abuse without effectively closing down the organisation in the process. So dragging heels, hunkering down, and accepting sanctions are their only options for attempting to keep the organisation afloat.
  

  Surely financial reasons are often in play behind their many secretive decisions, but I have to wonder if perhaps more is involved here.

  For example, would joining up with the redress scheme open them up to revealing their super-secret records to government authorities? If so, just like their not wanting to pay taxes in the USA back in the 1990s because that would have opened them up to government audits, is a similar principle at play here?

  It's worth considering.
  
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  Needing to Questions Elders to Help Husband Understand

  by Unlikely-pack-6349 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my husband insist that i talk to the elders.

  it is something i 100% plan on doing for the simple fact of my relationship with him.

  i know some of you may disagree but it seems like the best option for us.. problem/question: .

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  UP-6349,

  As you yourself put it: "I have a strong feeling that anything CA and procedure regarding this will cause this to automatically crash and burn"

  On the one hand you recognize that, but on the other, you seem to believe that you can somehow get through to them on this issue. You cannot. As soon as they get the slightest whiff that you are not toeing the party line IN ANY WAY, especially on the not-to-be questioned, or even discussed CSA matter, their defences will go up and they will not listen to the content of your questions, only that you have strayed into an area that you should not have. Their brains will only shout out them, "Danger, danger!" Next they will think, "Where did she get this? It's not been in any organizational publications." They will quickly conclude that you've been reading "apostate" material and begin warning you about that. You will set yourself up as a target in the cong. Is that what you want?
  

  This is the only outcome. You can write the script in advance. Why put yourself through it? Find another way to deal with it.
  
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  Any truth to the rumours ...

  by careful in

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  2. humour

  ... that the wtb&ts, and especially tony morris, are secret stockholders in this corporation?.

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  ... that the WTB&TS, and especially Tony Morris, are secret stockholders in this corporation?

  
  

  
  
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  Anyone know the org's view on the HPV vaccine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  types of cancer.i've been wondering for some time what the current gb has said about witness parents giving the green light, or red light, to having their kids vaccinated against hpv (the human papillomavirus) since it is a sexually transmitted disease.

  it causes cervical and other types of cancer.

  the recommended age for vaccination is 8-12 years old.

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  Thanks, road to nowhere and Corney. It's long amazed me how there are all sorts of policies the org has but you can't get the info in print. Surely lots of parents have asked their local elders what to do in this situation. Rather as an elder you have to contact your CO or call HQ for the scoop. More than ever, I firmly believe that this sort of thing is designed to make you constantly dependent on the org, as well as make you feel important that such "spiritual nuggets" of unpublished policy are a privilege to know... Ho hum.
  

  Yeah, and all they do is above-board—right!