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  What do the Org. And the Catholic Church have in Common?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses are like the pope is to the catholic church.

  they too claim to be god’s mouthpiece or the voice of jesus.

  they also demand unquestioning obedience for their members salvation.

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  One similarity is that both religions are made for, and often attract, R&F members who are incapable of thinking, or do not want to think, very deeply re: theology.

  That said, Vidiot's comment

  Easier and quicker to make a list of how they’re not similar
  

  has considerable merit. For example, many Catholic priests, especially genuine scholars, express disagreement with the Church's official line on various doctrinal matters but retain their positions. A Witness elder could never get away with that.

  R&F Catholics do so too. One Catholic language instructor I know used to do that in the classroom about required celibacy for priests and openly say that it was a cause for sexual immorality among the priests. He hated Vatican II and openly criticized it. Yet every Sunday he attended mass and received communion. The RC Church has far more tolerance among its membership than does the WTB&S, even if we leave out obvious areas like accepted fornication and mafia membership.
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  TV report-May 3, 2023-The Pa. grand jury investigation into alleged cover-up of child sex abuse within Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3q289vwok.

  the link is to the tv report - may 3, 2023. .

  below is a transcript of the tv report.. a pennsylvania grand jury has recently brought child sexual abuse charges against nine men—all jehovah’s witnesses—in what some are calling the most extensive investigation into the group in history.

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  I add my thanks for the update too. It may prove tough for the org to play this one down.
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  UK Supreme Court decides Watchtower not liable for elder raping 29 year old congregant

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  background: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5684019822854144/vicarious-liability-court-appeal-dismisses-appeal-from-religious-organisation-following-sexual-assault.

  the judgment (unanimous): https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2021-0089-judgment.pdf.

  press summary: https://www.supremecourt.uk/press-summary/uksc-2021-0089.html.

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  As always, Corney, thank you for the update.

  
  
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  RTN:

  Reading between the lines I surmise Lett the clown is actually a cunning despot.
  

  Hilarious!

  Vidiot: yes, Jaracz was definitely a throw back to Rutherford, eh?
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  JW visit...after 12 years out

  by Nobleheart1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i used to post here under the name nobleheart but forgot the old password, so put up a new account (nobleheart1).

  was a jw (2002-2011), ended up writing a da letter.

  i am a christian (since leaving the org).

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  You've stated the changes so well:

  Preaching is looking at the cellphone and listening to clips. Those clips are so silly, I have no idea what's so special or complex about them that they cannot summarize in their own words. Why would someone listen to a stranger explain why Bible reading is important to them when the JW at the door can provide their own experience? It is baffling to say the least.

  ... The lessons are so elementary, they're grade 3 level. The dumbing down is unbelieveable.

  How like Jesus and the apostles preached and taught!

  They are all dumb from the top on down now. Likely they have been trained to just repeat the pabulum given them because the GB are afraid of letting anyone think on their own, and that stems from the internet info and the dissemination of sites like JWD. The result is millions of zombies.

  When are you going to drop the bomb that you DAed yourself? Surely they will instantly flee.
  
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Balaamass2, thanks very much for this info. Let's hope it is accurate.

  Smart move on Watchtower's part to be the landlord. Few people bite the hand that feeds them. A lesson learned from harassing Ray Franz.
  

  True but in the case of Ray Franz someone very powerful was out to get him, Ted Jaracz. From appearances now, there is no one on the current GB who is that hostile to Morris.
  
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  Has Tony been abducted by Aliens?

  by Mit123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  probably but they’ve sent him back pretty darn quick!

  i have from a very reliable source that he attends one of the poughkeepsie ny congregations.

  i think there are 5 congregations there might be worth paying a visit if anyone lives near there..

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  So if he is "still in Bethel" then what is he doing there? Not attending GB meetings, but he likely has some kind of job there.
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  Answering JW Conversation Stoppers

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws often try to justify their religion as being the only true religion.

  questions like.

  which other organization is doing this or that?

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  Ding, you know what they'd say to

  "I don't understand why you call your religion 'the truth' when so many of their key teachings have changed just within our lifetime."
  

  ... progressive revelation and "that's just the light getting brighter" as time passes.

  A better one might be: "So are the members of the GB perfect?"

  They: "Of course not. All humans are imperfect."

  Better: "Then please give me some examples of their imperfections."

  They, sputtering and blushing: "Oh, I've got to go now!"

  Guaranteed conversation stopper!
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  Most children of Jehovah's Witnesses followers in Japan have been whipped, survey shows

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/03/15/national/jehovahs-witnesses-whipping/.

  the most cited reason was “napping or talking during congregations.” others included “answering back to parents” and “playing with a schoolmate.”.

  some respondents said they have been suffering depression as a result of whipping.. “i still cannot forget the sight of children screaming after they were taken into a large room at a congregation when i was a child,” a 44-year-old victim said, stressing that jehovah’s witnesses should reflect on what followers have done.. in february, a group of lawyers started supporting those second-generation followers.. in a statement issued on march 1, the japanese branch of jehovah’s witness said it does not accept child abuse.. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230315/p2a/00m/0na/006000c.

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  carla, I know that I have watched YouTube vids that provide an English translation, but I can't figure out how to do that with this one! I brought it up on YouTube directly but still could find no translation option.

  
  
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  Bethel Tours restarting

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the org is always so late.

  i remember the last in person meetings before went to zoom, none of us were wearing facemasks and i thought why is the org so late with this.

  they just announced older ones shouldn’t come but most large organisations had already stopped in person.

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  Where's the info on Bethel tours restarting?