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  Changed Jesus Painting

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  the theme of feeding many through the hands of a few was discussed at a recent clam, and it was based on a wt article from 5 years ago.

  for some reason though they changed the picture that goes with it.

  usually people are erased from pictures when they defect, but this doesn't look too different, just like they made him have more delicate features.. .

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  The change is indeed mostly in Jesus' face. Overall the lighting/contrast has changed, and on the top, left side, and bottom, there is more in the pic itself. Maybe someone just wanted some variation?
  
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  Hunt begins for legion of ‘missing’ children being educated at home

  by rebel8 in

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  2. friends

  a person who used to post here is quoted in this article.. i hate to be a biotch, but since this has happened multiple times here, let me just say this: please do not be an asswipe and "out" her here because it would connect her real name to her username on this forum, and all the highly personal stuff that goes with that.

  disclosing that is her decision, not yours.. ok, now that we have that out of the way, here's the article.

  it's pretty great to have the political and religious radicalism connected to dubbery in this way.

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  Got to give info or pay to read the article? No thanks.
  
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  Jehovah Witness family murder suicide

  by wannaexit in

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  so sad!!!!!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj0sivgdke&feature=youtu.be.

  http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/02/16/4-dead-keego-harbor-murder-suicide/345756002/.

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  Update:

  https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2018/02/17/keego-harbor-family-murder-suicide/348230002/
  

  I wonder what the BOE did for a memorial service. I went to one once in a congregation where a new bro. had killed himself, and the local high-powered elder (ex-missionary) who gave the talk made a big deal about murder and suicide not being the unforgivable sin. My impression was that many of the congregation felt uncomfortable.
  

  You've got the three family victims here. Were they JWs?

  I only saw undubstepped post's after I made mind. We posted just a minute or so apart. What a tragedy...
  
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  When did Cook, the new GB member, start claiming to be anointed, and what are the implications?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  kenneth cook was a "helper" in the writing department, which is apparently a role for those of the great crowd.

  watchtower 15/10/15 p.3 states that helpers are of the great crowd.

  "since 1992, the governing body has appointed experienced, mature christian elders to help its committees carry out their work.

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  FUJW:

  "overlapping-overlapping-overlappers"—so funny! Keep on overlappin! It could go on for generations, oops, I mean decades, centuries, millennia.

  I wouldn't be surprised some day if they officially apply their overlapping notion to the entire period from Pentecost of 33 to Russell and down until now. I remember how when I was in, I used to hear heavies say things like "God has never been without his anointed witnesses on earth" with "since Pentecost" understood. So there this overlapping notion was all along... I think Freddie Franz got the idea from the wheat and weeds parable, "let them [both the wheat and the weeds] grow together until the harvest," Matt. 13:30. Apparently FF saw this as overlapping presences of anointed ones on the earth from Pentecost until the harvest, or modern times. I guess Splane just jumped on the notion and applied it to the generation of Matt. 24:34 when the old view of that verse was obviously no longer tenable.
  

  These current GB guys are all originally from the great crowd, and at some time they came to believe they have been called to heaven. Since they had all been full-timers for years with some degree of prestige and rank in the org (CO, missionary, Bethelite administrator), as soon as they first partake, word quickly spreads, so they are then expected to rise in the org even more quickly. Doubtless that includes whoever is on the GB at the time, and they keep their eyes on such men to see if they're good GB material (Are they unquestionably loyal? Do they have any tendencies that might rock the boat?).
  

  After Sanderson had started partaking for a few years and was called to Brooklyn (if that chronology is right), one normal Bethelite said that everyone expected him to be appointed to the GB after a while. It's just the way the system works. You know "holy" they are all viewed.
  

  As to how one announces it, yes, it's that first time a person partakes of the emblems at the memorial. I know one long time elder who felt he'd been of the great crowd for years and then felt Jehovah had called him to the "little flock." He didn't tell anyone about it. He just partook at the next memorial. His wife about crapped her pants, err, I mean undies and dress. He never spoke about it with her prior to his first partaking.
  

  Telling people about it ahead of time would be a real no-no in Witness-think. It would cast serious doubt on its validity in they eyes of those in charge of the org. As for how one knows, that's part of the mystery of it all. Posing such a question here or elsewhere will yield no definitive answers.

  I guess you or we can keep on wondering as they keep on overlapping!
  
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  Does praying really matter? Where is the evidence?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  matthew 7:7 jesus says: ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

  for every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.

  or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?

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  Since such things are manifestations of faith, how could there be any empirical evidence?
  
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  Slang or Terms Only Used by Bethelities

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  there are many terms used at bethel that might sound foreign to normal people.

  there are many words or terms used at bethel that are unique only to their organization.

  here are just a few of them.. “a jack” this is someone who is a slacker or just lazy.. “a pot licker” this term has been used for many years but its connotation is unclear.

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  So what did Ciro A and Dan S do to get reassigned?
  
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  WifiBandit.....is he ok?

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. friends

  just haven't heard from him for a while.

  it seems to me i don't remember hearing from him around the time he did the prodigal boys podcast interview.. hope nothing has happened post that.

  perhaps he's decided to lie low for a bit.

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  Last post 2 months ago:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6477638404145152/greek-bethel-up-sale-video-77-kifisias-avenue-marousi-athens?page=2
  
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  Born again or born from above

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  last year i was at the memorial and the speaker was saying something about how the phrase born again was actually a mistake and it should say born from above.

  jesus was actually referring to those with a heavenly hope.

  last night i was flipping the channels and there is a religious program talking about being born again.

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  John's gospel is known for its regular intentional ambiguity. This is a classic example. It's apparent at 4:13-15, 7:33-36, 11:11-12. Note the disciples' reaction at 16:29, "“Finally, you are speaking plainly,” indicating that he had not done so before.
  
  
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  More News about child sexual abuse on Dutch National Television

  by jochie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  more dutch news (english subs)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50sgu0jmzq8&list=pljylxw3p9cbfy6ok1om84bef4irkutnog&index=2.

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  Thanks for the post.
  
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  $5.5 Million to be transferred to World Wide Work from Assembly Hall fund

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.

  it was sold a couple of years ago.

  we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.

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  Thanks, St George of England. Then it looks like what I said has already happened: they have applied their concept of reduction of KHs to AHs. All we are now seeing is the aftermath, the selling off of excess buildings.
  

  sir82: point well taken. So they have not reduced the number of assemblies since that would cut into their money making. But they have streamlined the process. Reduce their duration to one day. Pack them in and get them out, all the while collecting as much cash as always during their short stay. Why have more AHs than is necessary to do this? Streamline, streamline, streamline...