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  2022-12-19--Vaccination Requirement!

  by Atlantis in

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  2022-12-19--vaccination requirement.. .

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  https://postimg.cc/xxvbcwdv .

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  Okay, I've been out for so long that I don't keep up on all the latest. What's the difference between the Kingdom Ministry School and the School for Congregation Elders?

  
  
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  Thanks R&R for the link. Nowhere does he mention Rolf Furuli who is behind the move in Norway—what a shock!

  The vid is mostly devoted to getting the R&F back to the meetings, especially the younger cong members. They must be having a real problem with that.
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  New Discovery at Mt. Ebal: the earliest historical instance of the name of God

  by Terry in

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  https://youtu.be/guzbxzdpflo.

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  Thanks to Earnest and peacefulpete for the critical remarks.

  Already back in April some problems were delineated:

  https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-artifacts/inscriptions/mt_ebal_inscription/
  

  Evangelicals have been suckers before for such sensationalist claims, like the supposed first-century manuscript of Mark's gospel, later shown to be a hoax.
  
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  Elders confidential September

  by Mikejw in

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  for elders.

  announcements and reminders.

  september 2022.

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  Thanks, Smiles, for the info. When did this auxiliary counselor position begin?
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  JW's in war zone

  by Gorb in

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  there is so much silence about the jw's in the ukraine conflict.

  are the jw men arrested because they don't want to fight?

  how is that going in the hyper nationalist fase the country is in?

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  One thing has changed re: org policy in recent years, and that may be having an effect in the brothers-in-the-Ukraine matter. Remember that some years ago the GB decided that alternative service was OK in lieu of actual militarily service. So how is that playing out here? Does anyone know? Can Witness men do some ancillary service that "indirectly" supports the Ukrainian military machine?
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  Elders confidential September

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
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  for elders.

  announcements and reminders.

  september 2022.

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  careful

  Thanks Mike for the post.

  
  

  Excuse my ignorance, but what role is the elder now designated as the "auxiliary counselor"? That didn't exist when I was in. If there is an auxiliary counselor, then is there just a "counselor" who the auxiliary counselor is some sort of assistant to? Or is It just another illogical label he org has come up with?

  Also, what are "S-147-22.09-E Bi experienced publishers"?
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  Watchtower Basketball Guidelines!

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower basketball guidelines.

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  https://postimg.cc/btgxcgcb.

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  Thanks Atlantis for the fascinating post! Another look into the inner world the R&F know little about.

  TBK,

  It also sounds rather organized
  

  Of course it's highly organized. Can you picture them doing anything at HQ that is not? After all, it's "God's organization, brother!"

  Yeah, the request for contributions from ordinary Bethelites just shows how asking for money at every turn has become normal.
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  Watchtower vs Islam: Why the deafening silence?

  by raymond frantz in

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  why has the watchtower failed spectacularly to evangelize to the muslims?

  considering the recent influx of muslim people in european countries you would think that some attempt from the religion that touts the are preaching the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth would have been made.instead the only meaningful attempt dates back to 1953 ,almost 70 years ago!!!!

  book " man's search for god.what do you think?

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  BB:

  They were respectful and listened. Never found any interest in our message though.
  

  and RF:

  they seem to be all over the place and avoid critical thinking, like jws they are brainwashed by a more ancient cult
  

  Spot on! I had many dealings with young Muslim men in the 1980s-2000s and found they do not really grasp any sort of theology. It was a foreign concept to them. Although Islam has a theology, it is out of the reach of their R&F. On the normal grassroots level their religion is exclusively ritual. You have to find an Islamic scholar to dialogue about theology, and that's quite rare.
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  Apostates apparently have their own terminology

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

  "those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

  “8 old men in new york”,.

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  Excuse me, dyed in the wool Witness, whoever you are, but “overlapping generation” is right out of David Splane's mouth, and "theocratic strategy" is from Freddie Franz back in the 1950s publications. I remember how "avoid independent thinking" was bantered about in the WTS pubs plenty after the 1980 "apostasy" and after R. Franz's book came out.

  They continue to live in their Shangri-la.
  
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  Watchtower lawyer fined for misleading the court

  by Diogenesister in

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  watchtower lawyer david brumley has been fined for misleading the court during the discovery process of the montana case.

  the result was another 17 months of the courts time and the plaintiff having to produce evidence that wtpa did have a pivotal role in congregational business, which brumley had denied hoping that the courts would take his word for it.

  he will be personally responsible for reimbursing the costs accrued by the plaintiff, due to his misleading affidavit.. see mark o donnell's twitter statement here:https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1562205475374043136?t=emdh163jnfi8kb6zch-uga&s=19.

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  Good job, Earnest, in find the crux of matter in the verb tense used. This is also what the organization does in PR statements about CSA. They say "we do not [currently] hide perpetrators." They do not admit that they did so for decades in the past.

  Now that a court has drawn attention to this matter, lawyers will pick up on this and use it in their ongoing cases. They will be careful to pay attention to the WTS's language more closely.