Posts by Woodsman

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2 Samuel chapter 24 - Don't mess with God!

by nicolaou in

god tells david, "don't count my people".

david counts the people.. god tells david, "'cos you were naughty you gotta pick your punishment, will it be 'a' 7 years of famine, 'b' 3 months of national humiliation or 'c' 3 days of pestilence?

choose davey boy!".

Woodsman

God in his justice - could not let this treacherous act go unpunished

Only David didn't die. Just 70,000 of his countrymen.

whome might I suggest were not merely innocent bystanders - they knew Gods warning about taking a census

I didn't see this in the account. Is it somewhere else? The King and military leaders carried out the census. Valiant men were counted. Yet a pestilence is indiscriminant in its victims. Pestilence kills women and children who in ancient Israel had very little rights and certainly not the right to refuse the order of the King.

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Would you want Jesus as a friend?

by scout575 in

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whilst christians like to portray jesus as the supreme example of love and mercy ( as opposed to a supposedly wicked 'watchtower god' ), does the bible's presentation of jesus cast him in quite the same flattering light that christians like to believe?

for instance, at revelation 19:15 jesus is described as 'smiting the nations and ruling them with a rod of iron and treading the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of almighty god.

' does jesus sound just as bad as the 'wicked watchtower god'?

Woodsman

JW Tidbits:

(2 Kings 19:35) 35 And it came about on that night that the angel of Jehovah proceeded to go out and strike down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the As·syr´i·ans. . .

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w76 1/15 p. 54 The Coming Deliverance from the Anti-Religious "Ax" ***

What will follow in fulfillment of the ancient prophetic drama The Watchtower under date of April 1, 1945, pages 108, 109, explains:

. . . Then Jehovah’s witnesses, sheltered within his Theocratic organization, will be under siege and will seem threatened with destruction by the overwhelming hosts of the antitypical Assyrian, Satan the Devil. Yet be not anxious of such a future: Jehovah will fight the battle for his remnant and their companions. He will perform his "strange act" at Armageddon, as he did thousands of years ago in the land of Judah, ‘for his own sake and for the sake of his beloved King.’ Doubtless by that same Son of God who served as the angel to slay 185,000 of Sennacherib’s hosts and send him reeling back to his own violent death, namely, by his reigning King-Son, Christ Jesus, will Jehovah God go forth to battle and will wreak destruction upon the wicked challenger’s world-organization. Like Sennacherib, Satan the Devil will see his visible organization on earth utterly laid low in death. Next he will see his invisible organization of demons dissolved in destruction, and will finally himself be wiped out violently. No demon power will be able to save him.

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Would you want Jesus as a friend?

by scout575 in

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friends

whilst christians like to portray jesus as the supreme example of love and mercy ( as opposed to a supposedly wicked 'watchtower god' ), does the bible's presentation of jesus cast him in quite the same flattering light that christians like to believe?

for instance, at revelation 19:15 jesus is described as 'smiting the nations and ruling them with a rod of iron and treading the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of almighty god.

' does jesus sound just as bad as the 'wicked watchtower god'?

Woodsman

Little Toe,

The post is about Jesus. It is the Watchtowers's doctrine that Jesus was the angel that did much of the killing for Jehovah in the Old Testament.

I stated originally that I disapproved of Jesus killing anyone who doesn't believe in him. The WTS's doctrine is that Jesus will do this at armageddon. I didn't say he should go to jail for this now but that he couldn't be my friend unless he was willing to budge on this.

I didn't say Jesus made statements about the sexually ambiguous but that I would explain to him about such ones. The fact that he didn't make any statements about them but only men and women actually bolsters my point.

Is it late where you live? Sorry, what I mean is I hope I explained myself better.

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WHO R ANOINTED TODAY?

by PMJ in

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i personaly belivive the people who r anointed on earth today would be lovers of god and they would be united in thought of the only true god jehovah and his son jesus christ

Woodsman

Well PBJ, since you read apostate material I guess you aren't united with the JWs. Does that mean you have left?

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Do You Fear That Islamic Fundamentalists Will Start WWIII ???

by minimus in

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a lot of people are worrying about these uprisings, riots and violence being done----it seems everywhere.

i've read how some feel that europe does not have the ability as a union to fight against this.

is this like it was in germany prior to ww!!

Woodsman

Undercover,

Is that true about the Duke?

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Do You Fear That Islamic Fundamentalists Will Start WWIII ???

by minimus in

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friends

a lot of people are worrying about these uprisings, riots and violence being done----it seems everywhere.

i've read how some feel that europe does not have the ability as a union to fight against this.

is this like it was in germany prior to ww!!

Woodsman

Speak the truth Buster. We gotta stop being so pc and start getting medevil their asses. If ever saw a bunch of muslims rioting in my town, holding up signs saying they were gonna kill my family and attack my country I'd go right home get my Benelli and start clearing the streets.

I was ashamed for the English policeman who just stood there and watched their country and dead neighbors be mocked like that.

It's not the way John Wayne would have done it.

I can tolerate religous, ethnic and cultural differences but threaten my family and I have no problem taking you down. Its basic human nature and will to live. Too bad the law protects them and they know it.

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Would you want Jesus as a friend?

by scout575 in

jw
friends

whilst christians like to portray jesus as the supreme example of love and mercy ( as opposed to a supposedly wicked 'watchtower god' ), does the bible's presentation of jesus cast him in quite the same flattering light that christians like to believe?

for instance, at revelation 19:15 jesus is described as 'smiting the nations and ruling them with a rod of iron and treading the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of almighty god.

' does jesus sound just as bad as the 'wicked watchtower god'?

Woodsman

Little Toe,

My comment was from a premise of WT doctrine where Jesus has killed people in the past and will kill more in the future. Other Christian religions hold similiar views.

The WT, many other Christian faiths and the Bible do not account for mentally ill people who are incapable of making informed decisions. I know first hand of JWs who helped out a mentally ill person while they called on her and she "studied". When the witnesses could not convince this person to become a witness they stopped offering assistance and abandoned her. People are accountable with their lives based on what they do with their minds. Well I know that minds don't always work right and I don't think the Bible accounts for that. Hence my comment.

The WT and others have what I believe to be a simplistic view of human sexual identity. I think it reflects the scientific understanding of many years ago. I believe gender ambiguity is a term used to describe someone who is neither male nor female. Not just by outer appearances but physiologically and genetically. Wrong chromosomes, missing chromosomes, both genital organs, and any range in between. I remember a WT article highlighting how Jehovah made them, "male and female he made them". It was pretty insensitive to those who don't fit the bill and I feel the Bible is as well. Hence my comment.

Hope that helps.

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2 Samuel chapter 24 - Don't mess with God!

by nicolaou in

god tells david, "don't count my people".

david counts the people.. god tells david, "'cos you were naughty you gotta pick your punishment, will it be 'a' 7 years of famine, 'b' 3 months of national humiliation or 'c' 3 days of pestilence?

choose davey boy!".