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  Topic for conversation for DF'd bol

  by spoopy in

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  2. friends

  i need some information to bring up in casual conversation with my bol.

  he was df'd about six months ago, but he is still convinced it is the truth.

  i need some scriptural accounts where the "governing body" resembles the pharisees.

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  I need some information to bring up in casual conversation with my bol. He was df'd about six months ago, but he is still convinced it is the truth. I need some scriptural accounts where the "governing body" resembles the pharisees. Maybe someone has other suggestions for "non-confontational" conversation points. I want him to read coc but I think it is too early and he would reject it as apostate.
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  Disfellowshiped Last Night - Elder Question

  by johnnyc in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know some of you know me by my posts...as someone very much on the "fence".

  recently, i had made an effort to start coming back to meetings after being inactive for 2+ years.

  during that time, i did have a prescription drug problem following an injury.

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  johnny

  I see alot of myself in you. You tend to get hung up on technicalities. Not necccasarily a bad thing, but does not go over well with the elders. Your labeled as being difficult.

  I was in your situation. Not the disfellowshipping fiasco but rather feeling the need to be a part of an organization. While I did not agree with how the JW's did everything nor was I convinced of "all" of their teachings, or their involvement with the UN and etc; I did agree with their basic core beliefs. As you you brought out where would I go to find a religion that teaches these things? I therefore felt that I would go back and take the good, overlook the bad and trust that Jehovah would take care of "those taking the lead" that were abusing their position.

  I jumped through their hoops and got reinstated. It was only a couple of weeks after that I stopped attending the meetings. I could not take it! I could not sit there and take the lies and deception. I could not stand see the members of the cong. hanging on to every word in awe, as if it were coming from someone "faithful", while I new full well that it was either an outright lie or deception.

  I know I am smarter than that. I was not not going to sit there and be forced to believe something that was either a lie, or a concept that was constantly changing more than Ohio weather. If I wanted to be subjected to lies and half truths and false prophecies I could go to ANY religion.

  I was involved with the witnesses for over 30 years. In that time I could say that I had "read" the bible several times and that I had "studied" the bible and I new what it said. When I disassociated myself and was away for 7 years, I read the bible and studied the bible on my own. With the help of JWD I found out what the bible REALLY said and what the witnesses were really about.

  When I went back to the hall I was no longer "being programmed" I had been like the Bereans and now I could use my thinking powers that God had given me to make an INFORMED decision about what I was being taught.

  My advice:

  1) This df'ing situation should be a major red flag.

  2) Take some time and do some personal study of the bible and what it really says.

  3) It's your faith in Jehovah and his son that mean life. Not affilliation with some organized religion.

  4) Religion is just a place for people to buy peace and tranquility.

  5) When you align yourself with a certtain religion, people people veiw you based on the teachings of that particular religion. What is wrong with just being a christian and identifying yourself as such through your example.

  6) Affilliation is for weak people who lack confidence and self regulation. They need others to tell them what is right and wrong.

  7) Remember leaving the organization does not mean your leaving Jehovah. Your just cutting out the middle man.

  8) Take your time. Whatever you do, do not give someone else your power. If you do need to return, fine. Be convinced in what you believe and what you want. If they don't have what your looking for you will know that it's not for you. Turn and walk away without another doubt.
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  City Loses JW Convention-Parking dispute:Two versions-Guess who lied?

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  city loses conventionwednesday, october 01, 2008 by lee roopand kay campbelltimes staff writers [email protected]@htimes.comparking dispute spurs jehovah's witnesses to move .

  jehovah's witnesses will move their three summer meetings from huntsville to birmingham next year, ending for now a 12-year string of meetings that brought nearly $9 million a year in business to local hotels and restaurants.

  a dispute over parking has ended the annual meetings, at least for 2009, as the city's largest single convention booking, bringing 6,000 people to town each of the three weekends.

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  Grizzle estimated that some conventions attract as many visitors as members.

  Give me a break! All of the conventions I ever slept at, in no way were half of the attendees just visitors. On the days of the drama or the public discourse the attendance count never rose as much as 2%. Just another misleading statement (or lie) by the watchtower. Of course when it comes to calculations and figures, they would have a hard time keeping up with a first grader.
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  Need advice Memorial

  by spoopy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i left the troof (forced df, i may tell the story in the future) i had absolutely no contact with my family for 7 years.

  even after years of research and every day for years as a lurker on jwd, in a moment of weakness, because i thought i was missing something i went back.

  i figured i could take the good and ignore the bad and everything would be o.k.

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  I left the troof (forced DF, I may tell the story in the future) I had absolutely no contact with my family for 7 years. Even after years of research and every day for years as a lurker on JWD, in a moment of weakness, because I thought I was missing something I went back. I figured I could take the good and ignore the bad and everything would be o.k. Understand that getting my family back was in no way the driving force. I was so mad at them I didnt care if I ever spoke to them again.

  I jumped through hoops for less than six months got reinstated by the BOE. I was "accepted" back into the family. I found out that having my family back is what I was missing and it's great! As far as the troof.....I can't and I won't do it. I haven't been to a meeting or clapfest in over 9 months. The family does not say a word, it's not even brought up.

  Here is my question; finally. I will not be going to the memorial. I know one of the family members will bring it up, because this date is sooo important. How can I answer them without just telling them I didn't want to go.

  The family is fairly large and my sister attends the same hall so they will know. And they will talk.
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  Billy berates 'Keep on the Watch' #2: *Love those Molesters*

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  previous topic on cancellation of january "keep on the watch" campaign and contents of page 3 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/147814/1.ashx.

  i promised more... here it is.

  the brochure attempted to cram everything into a brochure and made such sweeping generalities that would lead to strange conclusions.

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  I thought the borg was "spirit directed". Surely "the spirit" would have seen all of this coming before the January offer went to print.
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  Are they at it again...shockin announcement September

  by aniron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we posted about an announcement it was only local to our cong.

  however we have found out that there is going to be an announcement sometime in september and it is supposed to be shocking.

  elders already know.

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  This is the first time I have posted. For what it is worth I told the p.o. of our cong. about the special awake campaign in sept. on evolution and the kingdom news campaign in sept. I only did it to watch his jaw drop. Let me tell you his expression was priceless. After he picked himself up off the floor, he told me that the elders don't even know about that. Then he proceeded to tell me that there is going to be another announcement in Sept. but it to was confidential.

  And that's all I know about that.