Posts by atypical

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Best, worst and weirdest assembly halls...

by Jamelle in

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a recent thread about the experience of attending the 1969 convention as a young child really started me thinking.

i have several fuzzy memories of assemblies i attended as very young child.

this got me onto the track of the rather odd, uncomfortable or even really cool buildings i have visited over the years as a result of those conventions.. so my questions to everyone are:.

atypical

My favorite was jack murphy stadium in san diego. Got seats in the shade under the overhang, and it was about 65 with a slight breeze the whole time. I wore sunglasses and just let myself doze. Good times.

I remember the Janesville, WI assembly hall. That was good because they were still serving hot food when I was there.

The worst ever was one year in Tucson, we got the convention center in between hockey games. They literally covered the ice with temporary wood flooring, so anyone near the floor seats was miserably cold.

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Do not Disassociate, Anull your baptism

by jwfacts in

i am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .

why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?

how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?

atypical

jwfacts, I think your letter is good. I'm surprised how much crap you are getting for being helpful. Everyone's situation is different. Those who were able to DA and move on, I think that's great. There are also some of us that have to walk a thin line in order to preserve some of our close relationships.

Since the watchtower places so much liability on anyone who has been baptized at any age, I think the annullment is a great idea. I know I wouldn't be able to pull it off because I regular pioneered for several years and auxilliary pioneered quite a few times after that, but for some it could be the perfect way out.

Cheers,

Atypical

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when is the truth not the truth

by beezknees in

okay i'm still a newbie but i was quite surprised when reading some info of a statement about the 'end being fluid' and that .

'present truth replaces past truth ,however present truth may be replaced by future truth'.

cambridge dictionary definition on truth -the real facts about a situation, event or person.

atypical

"Truth" is a buzzword used by high-control groups to cause their members to filter all information they receive. By referring to their group as "the truth", they cement an outlook in their mind that does not change even in the face of ridiculous action by their leaders. If they are IN "the truth", then anything that happens is only part of "the truth". That discourages any critical thinking towards the organization. I realized after I started fading that I had to force myself to quit referring to the religion as "the truth".

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DATING 101: Dating Interacially and my opposite: Will it Work Out?

by stillAwitness in

so me and the guy i've been dating finally became offical since last night and its the first time in almost a year since i have been in a relationship.

and for once, i think i may have a winner.

but he is white...and 32...and plays the african drums..and teaches some weird dance in a school for kids having to do with cuban tribal dances..or something or other.

atypical

StillA, I know from experience that an interracial relationship can be great. In my opinion, it would only be a problem if race is an issue to you or your bf. You may get some crap from narrow minded people, but you will get even more respect from the free-thinking majority out there.

I totally agree with those who said that it's more important that you share similar values and outlooks on life and other people. For example, myself and others on this board are married to or in a relationship with a staunch jw. That can be a huge problem on both sides. My wife and I always got along great until I started fading. Now sometimes it seems like we have nothing in common. On top of that, the pressure from the elders is taking it's toll.

Best wishes to you. And don't worry about the grandma. My grandma has no idea how racist she is, but she told me my whole life that she would throw a fit if I married a black girl (I know, I cringe even typing it!) but she loves my wife to death and brags about her to everyone.

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So....How's The F A D I N G Coming Along?

by minimus in

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so far, i've been left alone.

no one's bugging me.

i hear the c.o.

atypical

Terrible! I feel like I live in a fishbowl. One elder in particular has become obsessed with making me talk to him. He shows up at our house at strange times, calls every few days, tries to catch me at work (we have a mutual customer), tries to put my wife on the spot at meetings by asking her what times of the day I am home so he can catch up with me, etc.

Also, since I keep evading him, he has spread it around that I won't have anything to do with the witnesses at all. I have gotten calls from old friends who heard this because of him. It has been very frustrating and is definitely taking it's toll on my marriage.

We are considering moving across town to a new area to try and get some relief, but as long as my wife is so active I fear that I will continue to be harrassed by the elders of whatever hall she chooses to go to.

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Turning in my elder book

by What-A-Coincidence in

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damm!

my good friend who became an elder just recently wants to invite me for service because he wants to talk about a few things with me.

well ... you have not commented in months!

atypical

I totally agree with U/D. We have been trained as witnesses that everyone has a right to know our personal business. Well, they don't. The less you say, the less he'll have to go on. Remember that he can't force you to say or admit anything. The playing dumb routine works very well. If you smile and act confused, he will have less to go on than if you act angry or smug.

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Local needs after d/f or reproof

by jambon1 in

this may be a question for ex-elders.

is it always the case that a talk will be given after a d/f or reproof relating to the persons 'sin'?

after these announcements in our hall we always seemed to have a talk/local needs, which practically told you what the person had done.

atypical

Legolas, I am happy for you that you have your family out as well.

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Local needs after d/f or reproof

by jambon1 in

this may be a question for ex-elders.

is it always the case that a talk will be given after a d/f or reproof relating to the persons 'sin'?

after these announcements in our hall we always seemed to have a talk/local needs, which practically told you what the person had done.

atypical

It's embarrassing. They cover one subject in detail, usually fornication, without ever mentioning the person's name. I always thought it was way over the top, even when I believed.

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Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

by Elsewhere in

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top ten signs you're a fundamentalist christian

10 - you vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.. .

9 - you feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the biblical claim that we were created from dirt.. .

atypical

Bravo, Elsewhere!

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Local needs after d/f or reproof

by jambon1 in

this may be a question for ex-elders.

is it always the case that a talk will be given after a d/f or reproof relating to the persons 'sin'?

after these announcements in our hall we always seemed to have a talk/local needs, which practically told you what the person had done.

atypical

It's because they can't get away with announcing what the person did with the df announcement for fear of lawsuit. They are only held back by legal issues, otherwise they would embarrass the df'd person even more.