when one goes deep into the science, there are things that suggest the existence of immortal soul or a caring supreme soul.
hence, the question is not about lack of proofs, but is all about whether one is willing to accept or not (mathew 11:14).
let us take some samples:.
Ah - the 'It's nothing to do with God response'.
Of course, even us imperfect humans can see that a parent that stands by, watching their child place its hand on a hot cooking plate and then excuses their inaction by saying "It's nothing to do with me, it was their choice" is a crap parent.
So that's what I think of your 'caring God'.
what is it about the jws that draws them together?.
group think?.
ambient abuse?.
narcissistic supply.
Hmmm - how strange. Another poster users that phrase an awful lot. I wonder...
when one goes deep into the science, there are things that suggest the existence of immortal soul or a caring supreme soul.
hence, the question is not about lack of proofs, but is all about whether one is willing to accept or not (mathew 11:14).
let us take some samples:.
A caring God?
That allows millions to die in agony from cancer?
Millions to die in concentration camps (still going on in North Korea to this day).
That can apparantly relieve all suffering but chooses not to so as to make a point...
As parents go that's not very caring. So...maybe there isn't a God...and maybe science will explain all the points above in the decades and centuries to come. Science will certainly do more to help than God has bothered to do.
i may be behind the times here, but have any of you noticed the new look to jwfacts?.
http://www.jwfacts.com/.
the new branded logo on the top left, the scrolling bar at the top...reminds me of some other brand but i can't think where i've seen it before... .
I may be behind the times here, but have any of you noticed the new look to JWfacts?
The new branded logo on the top left, the scrolling bar at the top...reminds me of some other brand but I can't think where I've seen it before...
I must say, I'm pleased that the AAWA video has been dropped from the top. It felt a bit too anti-JW for Dubs who simply had doubts and were exploring sites to find out information.
Looks brilliant - well done Paul!
hello friends, .
i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.
i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.
I'd strongly recommend looking at jwfacts . com as well.
Please do.
the assembly hall in bristol was completed around 1995. i have a brochure which i could upload if there is enough interest.. were any of you involved with the construction?
any stories?.
Found these on You Tube, looking at something else:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hs-4PVdx1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEz2EFTYQ0
Wonder how many of those involved are still in?
Health Warning - may contain nuts.
just thought of another question that could start someone waking up.
you could say something to the effect of, "i was thinking how if we were to come across a person in the ministry who asks us how luke 21:8 does not apply to jws in light of the comments such as the ones (quoted below) how could we respond?".
or you could say that someone at work or school presented you with the awake quote and said luke 21:8 proves jws false, then you could say you need help coming up with a response to him.. luke 21:8 .
There is nothing to suggest Jesus was saying to look out for being who say those two things together.
He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
Plenty of people have claimed to be Jesus; does it follow that if they don't claim it is the due time they are worth listening to?
And note the use of quotation marks around the statements. Even the NWT has them. If it was one statement it would read:
For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he, and the time is near.'
Then you might have a point.
But it doesn't.
or are they all the same?
?.
Years ago, back in the 80s, I can remember a good JW friend of mine saying that unlike the clergy the GB were unseen. You could walk pass one at a DC and you wouldn't know them from anyone else. Their picture weren't in the magazines so they were pretty anonymous.
That was true back then, I couldn't have pointed them out. But the Proclaimers book began a change. And today they are everywhere. They just love their faces on videos and so on.
Another change for the worse that played on my mind when I was in.
just thought of another question that could start someone waking up.
you could say something to the effect of, "i was thinking how if we were to come across a person in the ministry who asks us how luke 21:8 does not apply to jws in light of the comments such as the ones (quoted below) how could we respond?".
or you could say that someone at work or school presented you with the awake quote and said luke 21:8 proves jws false, then you could say you need help coming up with a response to him.. luke 21:8 .
OP, you are ignoring a critical part of the text at Luke 21:8. Jesus is talking about people proclaiming to be Christ.... "I am he", and not to follow those people.
There are two things that Luke 21:8 people saying am I he AND the due time is here.
You can't suggest that one is more critical that the other.
And JW's certainly do claim that the due time is here.
Bloody false prophets!
i just discovered a site today that has scans of most of the magazines/publications ever published by the wt bible and tract.
it is not an "apostate site" it just has the material and no commentary.
those of us trying to wake up jws may find this useful as we can show old quotes and publications without sending out red flags.. we are supposed to be proud of our spiritual heritge right??.
What a rich treasure trove of fine theocratic blessings. You can now feast on the F&DS, the faithful and wise servants, outpourings.
My dear brothers and sisters, look at how our sincere bible student from times past has his question answered in a way that truly shows the world how Jehovahs chariot leads his earthly organisation to thoughtful and wise reasonings.
http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/archive/en/GoldenAge/g1929.pdf
Open this fine PDF and enter page number 479.
The question and answer is the one on the right.
The concluding sentence will bring tears to your eyes and a gratefulness to your heart.
*sniffle*
