i wanted a question that would shut them up.
Dude, some... uh... "friends" and I are hosting a black sabbath at a place out in the woods next full moon. We'd love to... um... have you for dinner. Want to come?
COMF
i know many j.w's and they are allways hassling me with there beliefs and making me feel pretty hacked off at times,is there anything i could say to shut them up or any good questions that they don't like being asked,i assume there are a few ex j.w's on this forum so you must have come across some tricky questions before,hope someone can give some advice?thanks
i know many j.w's and they are allways hassling me with there beliefs and making me feel pretty hacked off at times,is there anything i could say to shut them up or any good questions that they don't like being asked,i assume there are a few ex j.w's on this forum so you must have come across some tricky questions before,hope someone can give some advice?thanks
with all the problems in the 'truth' and all the things that we know are wrong with it there seems to be aspects of their theology (i.e the sequences of the world powers, statue in daniel, the promise of world restoration again found in daniel) that to me still make sense.
although i cannot follow a religion that believes in the destruction of all humanity barring those that respond to their own preaching work i still believe in a creator and cannot accept the teachings of other religions that have no purpose for the earth and believe that mankinds only destiny is in heaven.
my mind keeps telling me that if god was behind a religion it would be so much better than that of the jws.
The title of your thread is the exact question I asked myself after I realized that JW's were not God's one and only chosen people/organization, and were obviously misrepresenting both God and the truth.
At that point I embarked on a search for "the true religion" based on the parts of JW teaching I held to be true... Jesus is not God, no immortal soul, no hell, the corresponding ransom, the need and purpose of a resurrection.
I won't go into a detail of the steps and stops along the way to where I am now; nor will I try to pretend that where I am now is a final destination, for me or for anyone else.
I'll just say that I understand. I have been where you are, and for what it's worth: today, approximately four years after I stood where you are standing, I am a happy and satisfied man, enjoying life and living in serenity, at peace with myself and with the rest of the universe.
There are good things ahead for you, Individual.
COMF
Climb a tower of freedom, paint your own deceiving sign.
It's not my part to criticize or to ask you to be blind
To your own pressing problem and the hate you must unwind.
So ask of me no answer; there is none that I could give you wouldn't find.
- Jethro Tull, "Nothing to Say"
(Edited to correct sloppy typing)
i've always liked the sound of thunder, so when it came last night, it was comforting to me.. when i walked through the bedroom were the wife and daughter were watching tv.
sitting on the wife's lap, the daughter said, "daddy, help me.
i asked what was wrong.
well, here is my real picture.. i have decided to stop hiding and show my real face.. i hid behind an artificial facade (data) for a long time, fearful of facing the consequences of deciding that my former beliefs were incorrect.. i made the concrete decision in march of this year that jehovahs witnesses do not have the truth and in fact that they were totally wrong.. however, since i have been inactive for 5 years and i do have some people that i care about still in the organization, i decided that i would not reveal who i was so that i did not lose my friends and family.. however, i have now decided to be who i am and my change in my picture icon represents that change.
the consequences are still the same, and i am likely to lose most if not all of my borg friends, but that is the consequence of my decision.. no more hiding for me .
bugeye
i was aware when i da'd myself that i would be shunned.
what i didn't expect was how my children would be treated by brothers and sisters.
no phone calls or anything.
Hi, Es! Welcome back to the board! Good to see you posting again.
You said:
that it's because of Mom that members of the family act so weird around us
I suggest instead that you explain to her that it is their decision to make, and that we can't make people act like we want them to, so we just have to love them even when they do things we don't like.
Of course, I only have your one statement above to go on, so I may not be understanding clearly, in which case disregard my comments.
COMF
so what do you all think , is the organistaion of jehovahs witnesses flawed due to corruption or just mistaken belief systems?.
i was thinking it could be a bit of both .. perhaps some people know what they are doing and others cant see the errors of there ways .. i though that maybee the governing body , do's , co's and elders are usally just following what they belive to be true.. but who is the society that is behind it all , who is it really run by .. each year when the members of the society hold their annual who attends and why.
is this metting all about finances or are other things discussed?.
sleepy,
For starters its helps us to identify were we personaly went wrong. Were we missled or was our way of reasoning wrong?
I can identify with your desire to understand why they think and act as they do. I went through a period of time where I tried to do the same thing, and if it helps you at the moment, then I encourage you to keep considering this line of thought.
My point was that what we do now, how we react to the knowledge that we've been on the wrong path, and the course our lives take from this point onward should not be determined by the motives of those men. Rather, we can accept the reality: there is no guidance for us there, and in view of the harm being done to many whether deliberately or through ignorance, it is wisest to separate ourselves from that lifestyle and their influence.
COMF
so what do you all think , is the organistaion of jehovahs witnesses flawed due to corruption or just mistaken belief systems?.
i was thinking it could be a bit of both .. perhaps some people know what they are doing and others cant see the errors of there ways .. i though that maybee the governing body , do's , co's and elders are usally just following what they belive to be true.. but who is the society that is behind it all , who is it really run by .. each year when the members of the society hold their annual who attends and why.
is this metting all about finances or are other things discussed?.
as i passed through wol site i saw a post on how to handle microphones.
it was a pointless discussion about using cordless vs cord or a boom.
wow ... big stuff.. it reminded me of a few times i ran the mics.
bicker and complain all day?
why not try to show some love around here?
just wondering.... with love,